AI: The Rise of the Machines... Or Just a Lot of Overhyped Chatbots?

ShakyJake

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A lot of devs have big egos when it comes to their code. There is zero reason to think they will outpace AI over the next few years.
I had to write a simple desktop app for internal use. Nothing super complicated, but it did require some low-level system stuff that I have zero experience with. Had Codex code up something that worked perfectly. In total, spent a couple days making sure everything did work as expected and nothing stupid was going on. Would've taken me at least a week to research the stuff I didn't know, get a decent UI in place, validation, etc.

Submitted for code review and of course someone got bent out of shape because the agent used Array instead of List...
 

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Submitted for code review and of course someone got bent out of shape because the agent used Array instead of List...
Arrays vs lists is one of the great "Bike Shed" ( Law of triviality - Wikipedia ) traps of code reviews. Best way to handle those discussions (besides just changing to whatever data structure is appropriate, which is suprisingly array more often than people think...) is to profile the difference on an appropriately sized memory space with considerations of how often it re-allocates and how often the structure is traversed. Unless you're chucking a lot of data in each element it's really hard to beat arrays.

I haven't used Codex, but using AI to jumpstart a project in unfamiliar libraries or languages is a no brainer these days.
 
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M Power

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Back to the drawing board. In before a glass company pays someone to hack them to drum up business.


These are driven by sweat shop workers in south east Asia. This isn't "AI". Just like Tesla robots are all controlled by a third party person and no AI exists in them.
 

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This is nuts. Priced out a very basic server for a potential infrastructure change and its around $12000 with a 3 month lead time. Very similar server cost $4000 in mid 2024.



Also these prices and quotes are absolutely worthless now. Heres guys talking about orders already in being canceled or having prices changed;



I get Amazon or Microsoft etc. can deal with this but this has to be seriously fucking over rando companies.
 
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M Power

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This is nuts. Priced out a very basic server for a potential infrastructure change and its around $12000 with a 3 month lead time. Very similar server cost $4000 in mid 2024.



Also these prices and quotes are absolutely worthless now. Heres guys talking about orders already in being canceled or having prices changed;



I get Amazon or Microsoft etc. can deal with this but this has to be seriously fucking over rando companies.

I imagine at some point the price/cost ratio flips and companies just stop buying and then prices go back down. In no world do prices just keep going up at this rate and the return is still sufficient. Google's new AI compression algorithm may be the start of changing things as well. It will just take time for the market to correct.
 

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I imagine at some point the price/cost ratio flips and companies just stop buying and then prices go back down. In no world do prices just keep going up at this rate and the return is still sufficient. Google's new AI compression algorithm may be the start of changing things as well. It will just take time for the market to correct.
What I find interesting is that the very same AI thats requiring all of this hardware is also behind the design of the profit ratio and how to do it. The same algorithms shared across LLM platforms from the price gouging that is happening with real estate, farm land, rent control, etc.

The algo’s, from what Ive watched, are looking for specific break points in the structure of the supply chain and demand. So when one does happen, it either addresses that issue or limits its profitability until it can be addressed.

If you just use Video Cards as a base example - you know from your own past experience that the entire wafer is not used at all 100% consumption for the top end card. So if were talking 100k+ video cards, all of a specific grade of stock (5090 in terms if quality, right?) - then we know for a fact that there are wafers that did not pass the quality check in one way or another. Whats happened to those cards? The same can be said for Ram and SSD’s - the only way we can really know that the price is being manipulated far beyond what supply vs demand would dictate.
 

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This is nuts. Priced out a very basic server for a potential infrastructure change and its around $12000 with a 3 month lead time. Very similar server cost $4000 in mid 2024.



Also these prices and quotes are absolutely worthless now. Heres guys talking about orders already in being canceled or having prices changed;



I get Amazon or Microsoft etc. can deal with this but this has to be seriously fucking over rando companies.

Was wondering why I’m getting so pushed into vms lately or mini chassis.

I hate capital .
 

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12 most likely outcome of ASI. By the way lots of the AI researchers think it would be a good thing if AI destroyed us. Some even publicly admit they would help AI destroy us. We should be killing these people.

 
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