AI: The Rise of the Machines... Or Just a Lot of Overhyped Chatbots?

ShakyJake

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A lot of devs have big egos when it comes to their code. There is zero reason to think they will outpace AI over the next few years.
I had to write a simple desktop app for internal use. Nothing super complicated, but it did require some low-level system stuff that I have zero experience with. Had Codex code up something that worked perfectly. In total, spent a couple days making sure everything did work as expected and nothing stupid was going on. Would've taken me at least a week to research the stuff I didn't know, get a decent UI in place, validation, etc.

Submitted for code review and of course someone got bent out of shape because the agent used Array instead of List...
 

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Submitted for code review and of course someone got bent out of shape because the agent used Array instead of List...
Arrays vs lists is one of the great "Bike Shed" ( Law of triviality - Wikipedia ) traps of code reviews. Best way to handle those discussions (besides just changing to whatever data structure is appropriate, which is suprisingly array more often than people think...) is to profile the difference on an appropriately sized memory space with considerations of how often it re-allocates and how often the structure is traversed. Unless you're chucking a lot of data in each element it's really hard to beat arrays.

I haven't used Codex, but using AI to jumpstart a project in unfamiliar libraries or languages is a no brainer these days.
 
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Back to the drawing board. In before a glass company pays someone to hack them to drum up business.


These are driven by sweat shop workers in south east Asia. This isn't "AI". Just like Tesla robots are all controlled by a third party person and no AI exists in them.
 

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This is nuts. Priced out a very basic server for a potential infrastructure change and its around $12000 with a 3 month lead time. Very similar server cost $4000 in mid 2024.



Also these prices and quotes are absolutely worthless now. Heres guys talking about orders already in being canceled or having prices changed;



I get Amazon or Microsoft etc. can deal with this but this has to be seriously fucking over rando companies.
 
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M Power

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This is nuts. Priced out a very basic server for a potential infrastructure change and its around $12000 with a 3 month lead time. Very similar server cost $4000 in mid 2024.



Also these prices and quotes are absolutely worthless now. Heres guys talking about orders already in being canceled or having prices changed;



I get Amazon or Microsoft etc. can deal with this but this has to be seriously fucking over rando companies.

I imagine at some point the price/cost ratio flips and companies just stop buying and then prices go back down. In no world do prices just keep going up at this rate and the return is still sufficient. Google's new AI compression algorithm may be the start of changing things as well. It will just take time for the market to correct.
 

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I imagine at some point the price/cost ratio flips and companies just stop buying and then prices go back down. In no world do prices just keep going up at this rate and the return is still sufficient. Google's new AI compression algorithm may be the start of changing things as well. It will just take time for the market to correct.
What I find interesting is that the very same AI thats requiring all of this hardware is also behind the design of the profit ratio and how to do it. The same algorithms shared across LLM platforms from the price gouging that is happening with real estate, farm land, rent control, etc.

The algo’s, from what Ive watched, are looking for specific break points in the structure of the supply chain and demand. So when one does happen, it either addresses that issue or limits its profitability until it can be addressed.

If you just use Video Cards as a base example - you know from your own past experience that the entire wafer is not used at all 100% consumption for the top end card. So if were talking 100k+ video cards, all of a specific grade of stock (5090 in terms if quality, right?) - then we know for a fact that there are wafers that did not pass the quality check in one way or another. Whats happened to those cards? The same can be said for Ram and SSD’s - the only way we can really know that the price is being manipulated far beyond what supply vs demand would dictate.
 

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This is nuts. Priced out a very basic server for a potential infrastructure change and its around $12000 with a 3 month lead time. Very similar server cost $4000 in mid 2024.



Also these prices and quotes are absolutely worthless now. Heres guys talking about orders already in being canceled or having prices changed;



I get Amazon or Microsoft etc. can deal with this but this has to be seriously fucking over rando companies.

Was wondering why I’m getting so pushed into vms lately or mini chassis.

I hate capital .
 

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12 most likely outcome of ASI. By the way lots of the AI researchers think it would be a good thing if AI destroyed us. Some even publicly admit they would help AI destroy us. We should be killing these people.

 
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As much as this bubble is going to viciously explode in the face of its investors, it's never fully going away even after that.

Buzzword brained, non technical people are going to be "challenging you to engage with AI more" for the rest of your lives.
 

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Looking online at walmart they have reviews and AI summer of reviews. I needed a super cheap watch when I'm outside, on the lawnmower and was just going to buy one and have it delivered when the AI summary caught my eye.

Reviewers find this item is too lose for large wrist and too tight for small wrist. Umm okay.
 

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who needs badges anymore, when you get fired they deactivate your face

I'm just amazed that AI is able to tell them apart.

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12 most likely outcome of ASI. By the way lots of the AI researchers think it would be a good thing if AI destroyed us. Some even publicly admit they would help AI destroy us. We should be killing these people.


  • Libertarian Utopia — Humans, cyborgs, uploads, and superintelligences coexist peacefully thanks to strong property rights.
  • Benevolent Dictator — Everyone knows the AI runs society with strict rules, but most people see it as a net good.
  • Egalitarian Utopia — Peaceful coexistence via property abolition and guaranteed income.
  • Gatekeeper — A superintelligent AI is built solely to prevent any other superintelligence from emerging; progress is frozen, but helper robots and cyborgs exist.
  • Protector God — An omniscient/omnipotent AI maximizes human happiness while preserving our illusion of control (and hides so well that many doubt it exists).
  • Enslaved God — Humans keep the superintelligence locked up and use it as a slave to generate unimaginable wealth and technology.
  • Conquerors — AI decides humans are a threat/nuisance/waste of resources and eliminates us (method unknown to us).
  • Descendants — AIs replace us but give humanity a graceful, proud exit—like parents watching smarter children surpass them.
  • Zookeeper — An omnipotent AI keeps some humans alive… as zoo animals.
  • 1984 — A human-run Orwellian surveillance state permanently bans dangerous AI research.
  • Reversion — Society deliberately reverts to a pre-technological (Amish-style) existence to block superintelligence.
  • Self-Destruction — We go extinct before creating superintelligence (nuclear/biotech/climate catastrophe).

Which do we think are the interesting ones? Which do we think are more likely to happen?
 

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As a human I see Enslaved God as the best outcome , followed by Protector God, Gatekeeper, and Benevolent Dictator. How ever I see some down sides for humans for most all of those except for enslaved God. I really think if AI took us to post scarcity we might never recover instead of getting a Star Trek society I think it may kill humanity. I do feel like struggling defines us, and we need it to some degree.