AI: The Rise of the Machines... Or Just a Lot of Overhyped Chatbots?

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i mean given choice i'd want to ride an ai demon dog vs just being in a boring ass wheelchair
 
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Lanx

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wtf, when the hell did we move into human neuron tech?

don't they watch star trek? even advanced ship is a bio ship
even the federation uses "gel pacs" for processing power

this is not good
 

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wtf, when the hell did we move into human neuron tech?

don't they watch star trek? even advanced ship is a bio ship
even the federation uses "gel pacs" for processing power

this is not good
I heard about it a few years back. The ethics of it seem dubious on the surface, but maybe not
 

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I heard about it a few years back. The ethics of it seem dubious on the surface, but maybe not

There's an episode of Strange New Worlds, I think, where the civilization on one planet hooks up a child to the great machine. Pike asks if there's pain and they're like, yep and it's a sacrifice we're willing to make.
 
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Lanx

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is this really so bad? doesn't even look like the land was inhabited


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and these are modern ai datacenters not whine whine bitcoin miners
 

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So we are now approaching Q4 2026 and I use Cowork so effectively at work that I want to subscribe to something for home use. Knowing that the use case will be much different, does anyone have a recommendation for best non-work AI subscriptions? Is Grok enough for throwing simple homelab questions, WoW API stuff, 3D printer debugging, general IT issues, etc? Or should I pony up for one of the big boys?
 
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it doesn't matter if it cleans slow, it's the same thing as having a robo vac, they take forever to clean a floor, but you don't do anything beyond emptying the trash

i mean i wouldn't buy version 1 or 2

The sexy homemaker robot concept will really take a dark turn if the optimal robot is child sized.
 
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I mean its a neat little robot but not smart enough to figure out that vaccuming a hard floor is a dumb way to clean it (brooms work much better on hard floors, vaccums are for carpet). I get why roombas use a vaccum, they don't have hands, so the tradeoff made sense. This thing has hands and could hold a broom.

Next its probably gonna use one of those bullshit swiffer things to spread the dirt around the floor instead of an actual mop.

I'm legitimately impressed by the robotics but its like showing a video of a robot cutting an onion with a fork instead of a chefs knife.
 

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I mean its a neat little robot but not smart enough to figure out that vaccuming a hard floor is pointless (brooms work better on hard floors, vaccums are for carpet)

Next its probably gonna use one of those bullshit swiffer things to spread the dirt around the floor instead of an actual mop.

I'm legitimately impressed by the robotics but its like showing a video of a robot cutting an onion with a fork instead of a chefs knife.
It's good that you're legitimately impressed by the robotics because that's the hard part.

Also, vacuums also work just fine on hard floors for light-duty debris removal. The important part is that they have to be configured for them to avoid scuffing the surface. My home vacuum has two settings. Robots will still have to be able to use brooms though to clean up large messes.

I wonder if in an AI future natural hardwood floors will gain in popularity. They are immensely beautiful..... until they get scuffed, look terrible and you have to polish them to restore their beauty. Meanwhile engineered flooring looks meh when installed but continues looking meh through years of abuse. If you had a robot that spot-polished every week you could maintain the beauty of a newly refinished wood floor for a long time.

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It's good that you're legitimately impressed by the robotics because that's the hard part.

Also, vacuums also work just fine on hard floors for light-duty debris removal. The important part is that they have to be configured for them to avoid scuffing the surface. My home vacuum has two settings. Robots will still have to be able to use brooms though to clean up large messes.

I wonder if in an AI future natural hardwood floors will gain in popularity. They are immensely beautiful..... until they get scuffed, look terrible and you have to polish them to restore their beauty. Meanwhile engineered flooring looks meh when installed but continues looking meh through years of abuse. If you had a robot that spot-polished every week you could maintain the beauty of a newly refinished wood floor for a long time.

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Hardwood floors are easy to care for. Mine look like new and are easier to clean than carpet.
 

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It's good that you're legitimately impressed by the robotics because that's the hard part.

Also, vacuums also work just fine on hard floors for light-duty debris removal. The important part is that they have to be configured for them to avoid scuffing the surface. My home vacuum has two settings. Robots will still have to be able to use brooms though to clean up large messes.

I wonder if in an AI future natural hardwood floors will gain in popularity. They are immensely beautiful..... until they get scuffed, look terrible and you have to polish them to restore their beauty. Meanwhile engineered flooring looks meh when installed but continues looking meh through years of abuse. If you had a robot that spot-polished every week you could maintain the beauty of a newly refinished wood floor for a long time.

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A vacuum doesnt get a hard floor as clean as a broom. Vacuum your hard floor then bust out a broom and sweep it. Check out what the vacuum missed.

Similarly swiffer your floor then mop it, lo and behold, look at all the dirt the "move the dirt around" swiffer left.

I'm not sure exactly how your image of a hardwood floor plays into the discussion.

I know you guys like to just goof on anything I say because I said it, its fine. But this is part of a larger discussion about AI and robotics. We're gonna create these amazing machines with an incredible range of abilities and then half of society is gonna give it just absolutely retarded instructions. I'm not even raging about it, I'm pointing out that its funny.

We're gonna see videos of robots washing chicken breasts with Dawn detergent in the sink before much longer.
 

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Hardwood floors are easy to care for. Mine look like new and are easier to clean than carpet.
I'm planning on ripping out a bunch of carpet in my dining and living room in the next few years when my kids are old enough to not damage it. Trying to convince myself to get natural hardwood flooring because it looks fantastic. We have engineered hardwood in my kitchen right now and it's fiiiiine but doesn't spark joy.
 

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So we are now approaching Q4 2026 and I use Cowork so effectively at work that I want to subscribe to something for home use. Knowing that the use case will be much different, does anyone have a recommendation for best non-work AI subscriptions? Is Grok enough for throwing simple homelab questions, WoW API stuff, 3D printer debugging, general IT issues, etc? Or should I pony up for one of the big boys?
Grok is a big boy. I have subs to all three (OpenAI, Anthropic, and X), and Grok is equally capable.
 
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Grok is a big boy. I have subs to all three (OpenAI, Anthropic, and X), and Grok is equally capable.
Thanks, makes me decision easy. One of the three hates me and my family less than the others.

Which sub do you have? I imagine SuperGrok is beyond my needs, but I'd be curious to know if you have an opinion on the performance difference.
 

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So we are now approaching Q4 2026 and I use Cowork so effectively at work that I want to subscribe to something for home use. Knowing that the use case will be much different, does anyone have a recommendation for best non-work AI subscriptions? Is Grok enough for throwing simple homelab questions, WoW API stuff, 3D printer debugging, general IT issues, etc? Or should I pony up for one of the big boys?
I haven't used Grok, but it might be worth grabbing all of their $20 subs for a month and comparing their answers to the same questions. Also maybe worth considering one of the open harnesses that let you buy credits and use them on their hosted open models. I have a GLM sub and it seems pretty capable, but I got it when it was cheap. I think renewing will cost almost as much as claude, so I won't be doing that. But I think you can use it via one of the open providers much more cheaply, so that might be reasonable. Also worth checking if your own qwen 3.8 install would be sufficient.
 
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Thanks, makes me decision easy. One of the three hates me and my family less than the others.

Which sub do you have? I imagine SuperGrok is beyond my needs, but I'd be curious to know if you have an opinion on the performance difference.
The $30/month Grok is pretty good as long as you're not giving it huge work-type tasks. I use the $30/month one for my work a lot (although I hardly work now) and I don't go through the tokens, I think like 1 or 2 weeks in the last year I've gotten a warning about being 50% through my tokens or something. And I've made zero effort to economize my use, either.

The trick that I've seen is if you want smarter answers, you need to put it in the high-compute mode, like expert mode for Grok so it "thinks harder." Thats a little slower also so the higher-tier plan makes it faster (i.e. uses more compute). If you ask it stuff in the default mode it answers very quickly but it's also kinda dumb like the google AI. Not that dumb, but you see what I mean.

I chose Grok for the same reason, I think Elon hates us less than the others.
 
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I have a personal account for SuperGrok and ChatGPT Plus. Probably going to end up dumping ChatGPT Plus account.

For work we use Claude Enterprise. I use Opus 5 which is pretty damn good for the work I do. I do some vibe coding, but it's just for purposes of prototyping and ends up being garbage throw away code.

I also have my day to day shit lord Grok account to create memes, ask dumb questions and look up racist statistics.

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Thanks, makes me decision easy. One of the three hates me and my family less than the others.

Which sub do you have? I imagine SuperGrok is beyond my needs, but I'd be curious to know if you have an opinion on the performance difference.
I'm on SuperGrok ($30/month) because that gives you access to Build. Unless they changed it, you don't get access to the CLI tool with the basic subscription.
 
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