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I mean you don't hire the guy who created Legion to create a normal zoomer Alien IP show.
The very clearly evil medical guy who looks like he hasnt even entered med school has a overgrown broccoli haircut.
 
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Did you not watch covenant? Or Romulus?

I'd be happy to be wrong but this looks like another serving of zoomer slop in old ip skin suit.

I want to say I watched them, but I think the memories have been repressed due to trauma ;p
I'd be right there with you, if the writers, producers or directors have any overlap with the movies, but I don't think they do ?

Genuine question though - what makes something 'zoomer slop' ? I would have said that those movies were bad, but not in a zoomer way, but I realised I have no idea what 'zoomer' meant here.
 
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It's been a while since I actually sat down with Prometheus, but my immediate thought is that the idea of zoomer is there is no real atmospheric buildup and almost every plot point is fodder to the next point.. it feels like it just goes scene to scene and is crammed.. which prompts wasted "potential." It's full of nuggets with no ability to flourish into anything meaningful.. and whenever it did crescendo those notes, it felt like it just happened.. just like little flashes. Can't tell if it's because technology for vfx is better so they went buck wild with what they could put in versus the limitation they dealt with in Alien and Aliens. I absolutely loved David, but the whole scientist crew just felt throwaway, Guy Pearce reveal felt throwaway, Engineers felt throwaway. When the scientist whos design I thought seemed cool/cyberpunkish got hit in the face with acid and his helmet was melding to his skull was one of the coolest things I had seen in the franchise falls flat because you just didn't get enough time to care for these guys, then he returns as a monster and dies immediately.. The tension just felt missing, the connection felt missing.

Can't speak for Covenant; only watched youtube breakdowns, but I enjoyed Romulus for what it was.. though I understand the sentiment; it's the best alien we've gotten post '95 imo.. but really isn't saying a whole lot. The autistic android while I enjoyed it, was also distracting/comical(up there with Kruger from Elysium kinda bad).. and the tension they threw in while on paper makes sense, it just didn't connect to the viewer. Felt very why tf would you go in there horror film style.. It was ultimately homage-y and just feels like it tries to throws so much at you without allowing you to really process it.

atleast thats my take, could be wrong
 
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The problem with Prometheus was the lazy writing to move the plot along. It could have been a good film if the scientists made smart decisions and bad things still happened.
 
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Genuine question though - what makes something 'zoomer slop' ? I would have said that those movies were bad, but not in a zoomer way, but I realised I have no idea what 'zoomer' meant here.
Prometheus and Covenant wherent zoomer slop themselves, they where just awful movies.

Zoomer slop is when your movie is basically a young adventure novel. Which is exactly what this looks like.
 
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I dunno what all the bizarre negativity ever since it was announced is about, but the trailer looks pretty good.
Bizarre negativity? Have you watched any of the last 20 alien movies?
 
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And no the movies did not “follow” a woman, there was a woman who acted like a badass, with no cry baby bullshit
 
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Not saying it won't be shit but Noah is a great writer. This forum has shit on this series from the get go. it might be crap but he is a very unique writer/ect. If you know the few stuff he's worked on he is not your typical writer

His main works was Fargo and he did the Coen brothers well and did Legion which is a different take on the marvel stuff. The guy knows how to tell a story
I've not ever watched any of this stuff so I don't know. I just don't watch a lot of TV shows now because of the whole issue with things getting canceled and your left hanging, etc.

I just know that the handling of the whole franchise has been pretty shit, and I stand by my position that I don't expect it to be anything amazing.

I mean if he's good at his craft, then great, but I'm still going in with low expectations, but maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised like I said. It's not that I don't want good aliens stuff, but I don't have a lot of faith at all in Hollywood in this day and age, and can you honestly blame me?

I wasn't ever a huge marvel fan but I really enjoyed the culmination of their stuff with endgame other than a few movies and parts, but all in all it was great, and a real accomplishment filmwise. I couldn't tell you what the hell's going on now and where do I necessarily care because it all looks so bad.

If it's bad don't watch it and stop giving these people your time or money, and then maybe that's how we get better entertainment, just a thought.

The alien stuff that's probably the only thing I will always check out, but be super critical of because of the reasons I've stated in prior posts and I'm still in the camp that Blomkampf should have gotten his shot, because he was proposing to do something different and could have let everything in a different direction, that old man Ridley had to get involved.
 

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It's been a while since I actually sat down with Prometheus, but my immediate thought is that the idea of zoomer is there is no real atmospheric buildup and almost every plot point is fodder to the next point.. it feels like it just goes scene to scene and is crammed.. which prompts wasted "potential." It's full of nuggets with no ability to flourish into anything meaningful.. and whenever it did crescendo those notes, it felt like it just happened.. just like little flashes. Can't tell if it's because technology for vfx is better so they went buck wild with what they could put in versus the limitation they dealt with in Alien and Aliens. I absolutely loved David, but the whole scientist crew just felt throwaway, Guy Pearce reveal felt throwaway, Engineers felt throwaway. When the scientist whos design I thought seemed cool/cyberpunkish got hit in the face with acid and his helmet was melding to his skull was one of the coolest things I had seen in the franchise falls flat because you just didn't get enough time to care for these guys, then he returns as a monster and dies immediately.. The tension just felt missing, the connection felt missing.

Can't speak for Covenant; only watched youtube breakdowns, but I enjoyed Romulus for what it was.. though I understand the sentiment; it's the best alien we've gotten post '95 imo.. but really isn't saying a whole lot. The autistic android while I enjoyed it, was also distracting/comical(up there with Kruger from Elysium kinda bad).. and the tension they threw in while on paper makes sense, it just didn't connect to the viewer. Felt very why tf would you go in there horror film style.. It was ultimately homage-y and just feels like it tries to throws so much at you without allowing you to really process it.

atleast thats my take, could be wrong
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Romulus was Alien version of The Force Awakens. That's the easiest way to describe the movie. Both of them look great, and yeah there's some likable characters or performances and great visuals, but it's all just stupid fan service that doesn't really amount to a hill of beans.
 
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I said from the beginning I'm giving this a chance just for Noah hawley
Hawley has a good eye for depicting quality cinematic scenes with interesting ideas

Unfortunately, I think his stories/characters tend to be shallow

I am not super optimistic, but it could be a decent way to spend a few hours
 
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Hawley has a good eye for depicting quality cinematic scenes with interesting ideas

Unfortunately, I think his stories/characters tend to be shallow

I am not super optimistic, but it could be a decent way to spend a few hours
Long as Aliens wreck havoc on earth I'll be happy.
 
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Long as Aliens wreck havoc on earth I'll be happy.
The problem is if it takes place before the first alien movie, it's obviously just going to be isolated to that Neverland Island, and there will be a bunch of goofy stuff that happens there, but it's not like the aliens are going to escape out into the wild like aliens Earth war comics, and we already know how everything plays out afterwards, so what the hell is the point.

Guess they're trying to weave in some sort of Peter Pan type theme, specifically with not growing old by transferring your consciousness into an android sort of shit. The protagonist is named Wendy. Wouldn't be surprised if there's a Peter Android.

Hence the reason I say it's probably going to suck, but I'm sure they'll be a bunch of cool looking fan service. Honestly think this is just trying to milk the IP because why not for more money.

Whatever, could have just followed the goddamn comics, you've already got everything story boarded out for you.
 
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The problem is if it takes place before the first alien movie, it's obviously just going to be isolated to that Neverland Island, and there will be a bunch of goofy stuff that happens there, but it's not like the aliens are going to escape out into the wild like aliens Earth war comics, and we already know how everything plays out afterwards, so what the hell is the point.

Hence the reason I say it's probably going to suck, but I'm sure they'll be a bunch of cool looking fan service. Honestly think this is just trying to milk the IP because why not for more money.
Doesn't have to be Xenomorphs for me. We know they will kill a bunch of bitches. If the four other species get crazy I'd love that too.
 
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Doesn't have to be Xenomorphs for me. We know they will kill a bunch of bitches. If the four other species get crazy I'd love that too.
I guess that is a good point, and maybe that's where you tie in the whole bug hunt stuff from aliens into. Gives them carte blanche to do whatever they want. Who knows. Like I said all watch it, but I'm not holding my breath on it being the greatest contribution to the franchise.
 
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I guess that is a good point, and maybe that's where you tie in the whole bug hunt stuff from aliens into. Who knows. Like I said all watch it, but I'm not holding my breath on it being the greatest contribution to the franchise.
If it's the best since Aliens I'll be thrilled. If it's the best since Aliens 3 I'll be happy. If it's better than any of the recent turds I'll be pleased.
 
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If it's the best since Aliens I'll be thrilled. If it's the best since Aliens 3 I'll be happy. If it's better than any of the recent turds I'll be pleased.
You know with it being relegated to an island, I wonder if it's going to be like a stupid Jurassic Park type thing, but with aliens!
 
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You know with it being relegated to an island, I wonder if it's going to be like a stupid Jurassic Park type thing, but with aliens!
If they nuke the thing from orbit it will be cool.
 
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