Ancient Civilizations

I just got back from a trip to Italy and Greece. It’s very apparent they were going for the awe factor back then when building those cathedrals and some other structures. It’s a damn shame we don’t care about that, anymore.

So this is the guy who developed the SAR technique which was used to do the deep scans under the Pyramids. A few of the more interesting points I gleaned from this:

-They waited over a year before publishing anything because they knew this would turn shit on its head and wanted to be sure.
-They literally repeated the scans hundreds of times and always got the same results back.
-One of the ways the technique was verified was by using his SAR technique to map a particle collider inside a mountain in Italy. The collider is up to 1.5km deep in the mountain, and the technique was used to successfully map it he claims.

He seems so f'n sure this stuff is down there - the multiple cylindrical shafts going hundreds of meters down and large 80x80x80m spaces at the bottom of those. This is about the #1 thing I want to see in the coming years - wtf is down there?

Pharazon2 said:

So this is the guy who developed the SAR technique which was used to do the deep scans under the Pyramids. A few of the more interesting points I gleaned from this:

-They waited over a year before publishing anything because they knew this would turn shit on its head and wanted to be sure.
-They literally repeated the scans hundreds of times and always got the same results back.
-One of the ways the technique was verified was by using his SAR technique to map a particle collider inside a mountain in Italy. The collider is up to 1.5km deep in the mountain, and the technique was used to successfully map it he claims.

He seems so f'n sure this stuff is down there - the multiple cylindrical shafts going hundreds of meters down and large 80x80x80m spaces at the bottom of those. This is about the #1 thing I want to see in the coming years - wtf is down there?

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Until Zawi Hawas is no longer in charge of Egypts archeology permits, nothing will be done. Just pray that when that fucker dies, someone more reasonable takes over.

I feel like studying ancient civilizations has ruined most documentaries for me.

currently watching a doc about Persia’s Persepolis and hearing things like “it’s older than the Sphynx.” And I’m like… is it, though? The Sphynx was likely erected before the Younger Dryas.

Or “since the first person to ever discover Antarctica in the 1850’s.” Was it though? Or was it the first person to discover and report on it. Or was it the first western civilization to discover it and report on it when there are even older records of non western civilizations discovering the pacific coast of the Americas or the Antarctic coastline.

idk. It just makes me realize how much of history is written by those in academia vs what the evidence says.

Orwell wrote in 1984 that those controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.

Cad said:

Definitely true, but I think for documentaries and history there's always a "that mattered" qualifier put on it.

Did Columbus "discover" America? Absolutely not, there were already people here. Had been for thousands of years. The vikings were here before Columbus, by hundreds of years. But did they matter? No. The society that we discuss was created by the people who "discovered" America in 1492.

They should just use better language rather than "discover" they should say learned about or re-discovered.

The Persia stuff I got nothing on, that just seems wrong, and not even close.

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The America is a wild one.

There are ancient Chinese coins discovered and a voyage dating back to the early 1400s of China visiting California.

The Smithsonian’s website even verified that Polynesians were interbreeding with Pacific Westcoast Americans in the 1200s. As you mentioned, Vikings had a permanent trading post in Nova Scotia Canada in 1000 CE.

Those are the 100% without a doubt confirmations, outside Columbus.

Then there is the Wales colony that landed in Alabama during the Medieval Europe and formed a temporary settlement. This is confirmed even by Native American lore as well as Wales folklore, but no concrete evidence.

That’s all before the shorelines of South America / Antarctica may have been mapped out on ancient maps that Piri Reis copied his map from in the 1500’s. That one is a coin flip for me.

One thing that’s odd is the Olmec tribe in modern Mexico resembles subsaharran Africans. The Kemet people of North Africa had sea worthy vessels, and some of the pharoah’s biopsies have even shown signs of cocaine and tobacco (both only brought over to Europe during the Colombian exchange). Now those tests could be just wildly off for some reason or they could actually have had some ancient trade with the Americas that was lost to time.

I agree that for congruent, unbroken history, the Columbus Expedition was what connected mainstream Euro trade with the Americas.