Ancient Civilizations

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Indigenous people along the Pacific Coast of modern Russia could see the Alaska mainland from the NE Asian mainland when the weather was clear. It's only 55 miles across, and the closest islands are only 2-3 miles apart. Pretty close. Indigenous Asians in modern Russia traded with the Chinese, the Mongolians, and the Alaskan Native Americans before and after Columbus. There was never a period in time where the Alaskans didn't trade with the Indigenous Asians.

Polynesians traded with South Americans in modern Chile as far back as 1200 BCE.

Vikings traded with Canadian Indians in Nova Scotia as early as 1000 CE.

There are white skinned Alabaman Indians, most likely a lost colony from Wales. Not proven, but this is common folklore in Wales and for Alabaman Indian communities.

Tell me again how Columbus discovered the New World? Esp. if the New World was already regularly trading with Indigenous Asians? Or how it is so farfetched that ships from Africa and Australia might've landed in South America (as there is indigeneous australian dna in South American peoples, and the Toltec people in modern Yucatan looked sub-saharran African).

Bruh, the older I get, the more I realize, Columbus more or less just introduced trade/plunder for Spain and Portugal than discovering anything.
 

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TLDR: Modern Egyptians are roughly 12% subsaharran african and are mostly arabic.

Ancient Egyptians, Dynastic and PreDynastic, the genetic record was far less subsaharran and had genes for fair skin and blue eyes.

Coming in late to the conversation but.. Im assuming the DNA never really changed on the scale of Roman DNA simply because Egypt never swelled up like a balloon. The times it did take land that wasnt in the middle east or around the mediterranean sea - their ventures down towards Ethiopia - is what I suspect caused that influx of subsaharan DNA. When Rome ruled Egypt and much of that area - may have caused a lot of immigration, too. But they pulled back from those countries and went insular time and time again.

I can tell Im getting older because it was like an act of God to not write out a fucking essay about the decline of nations around the world that allowed immigration from Africa and central Asia.

As far as Colombus goes - I just feel like people dont give a shit anymore. We have maps dating back from 2000/3000 BC that are obviously showing the coast of North America. A lot of emotions are tied to Colombus simply because hes white and its what schools taught us for decades, too. Sure, he may have propelled a lot of imperialism in a lot of bad ways - but without that imperialism, I dont "think" we would have the US in this form today. So many things hinged on Colombus and that whole time frame and it seems like your average subsaharan cant connect the dots.