Ancient Civs, the Paranormal, UFO's, and Mysteries of the Unknown

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I needed some separation from the other threads.
The conversation of strange phenomenon desperately needs to head in another direction.
The only way to spur a release of the hidden content they have, is to petition the Government.
Raise our voices loud and ask for more disclosure so that we may have the Possible threat in our skies openly spoken of and allow the organized discussion, research and science that need to be done.
The only way that will happen is with the spreading of information.
No longer hidden in the realms of "Conspiracy Theory", the sightings of Strange Unexplained Phenomenon in this world are now spoken of openly, even by Government officials.


There is a lot happening around the globe these days.
Since these are all unexplained thus far, I'd love to hear some constructive conversation in here.
I will be posting a number of weird and wild observable Phenomenon that Science, in most cases, doesn't have any answers for.
Or as yet have been disclosed to the public.

Here is a short list of topics I will be covering in the next few weeks.
Missing Ocean Water Worldwide
Mysterious Loud Booms heard all over the world
Strange pulsing lights in the sky
Skinwalker Ranch





UFO's, or Advanced Aerial Threats are the topic in this First post.

Not Aliens.

First post I'll dedicate to a few of our Pilots in the air.
They have been encountering Untrackable, Unidentifiable flying vehicles for years.

Learjet And Airbus Had Strange Encounter With Mysterious Craft Over Arizona

The initial report came from N71PG, the Learjet, asking Albuquerque Center if traffic had passed above them. The controller replied "negative," meaning that there was no traffic to his knowledge that would account for such an observation. The Learjet pilot replies defiantly, "somethin' did." Another pilot chimed in on the frequency saying "a UFO" and the Learjet pilot replied "yeah."


A few minutes later, the controller asks American 1095 to let him know if they see anything "pass over you here in the next 15 miles." The American Airlines pilot replies in a puzzled manner "if anything passes over us!?" The controller responds "affirmative, we had an aircraft in front of you at 37 [thousand feet] that reported something pass over him and we didn't have any [radar] targets, so just let me know if you see anything pass over you."



Until the recent disclosure by the Pentagon, many of these encounters were scrubbed from the books.
Not taken seriously by those at ground, laughed at and ridiculed by anyone they would take their story to.


Now, we are finally being given undisclosed encounters, with recordings.

And some clever aviation hobbyists and airmen have been quick to disclose said encounters.



The media format is a little weird on this next video, but I can appreciate the content just the same.

Boeing 747 Followed by a UFO | An Out Of This World Encounter | Japan Air Lines Flight 1628

The crew of a Japan Air Lines Boeing 747 first witnessed two unidentified objects to their left.
These abruptly rose from below and closed in to escort their aircraft.

And here is the associated MUFON file.

Japanese Airlines Flight 1628 - 1986
 

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#2
I needed some separation from the other threads.
The conversation of strange phenomenon desperately needs to head in another direction.
The only way to spur a release of the hidden content they have, is to petition the Government.
Raise our voices loud and ask for more disclosure so that we may have the Possible threat in our skies openly spoken of and allow the organized discussion, research and science that need to be done.
The only way that will happen is with the spreading of information.
No longer hidden in the realms of "Conspiracy Theory", the sightings of Strange Unexplained Phenomenon in this world are now spoken of openly, even by Government officials.


There is a lot happening around the globe these days.
Since these are all unexplained thus far, I'd love to hear some constructive conversation in here.
I will be posting a number of weird and wild observable Phenomenon that Science, in most cases, doesn't have any answers for.
Or as yet have been disclosed to the public.

Here is a short list of topics I will be covering in the next few weeks.
Missing Ocean Water Worldwide
Mysterious Loud Booms heard all over the world
Strange pulsing lights in the sky
Skinwalker Ranch





UFO's, or Advanced Aerial Threats are the topic in this First post.

Not Aliens.

First post I'll dedicate to a few of our Pilots in the air.
They have been encountering Untrackable, Unidentifiable flying vehicles for years.

Learjet And Airbus Had Strange Encounter With Mysterious Craft Over Arizona

The initial report came from N71PG, the Learjet, asking Albuquerque Center if traffic had passed above them. The controller replied "negative," meaning that there was no traffic to his knowledge that would account for such an observation. The Learjet pilot replies defiantly, "somethin' did." Another pilot chimed in on the frequency saying "a UFO" and the Learjet pilot replied "yeah."


A few minutes later, the controller asks American 1095 to let him know if they see anything "pass over you here in the next 15 miles." The American Airlines pilot replies in a puzzled manner "if anything passes over us!?" The controller responds "affirmative, we had an aircraft in front of you at 37 [thousand feet] that reported something pass over him and we didn't have any [radar] targets, so just let me know if you see anything pass over you."



Until the recent disclosure by the Pentagon, many of these encounters were scrubbed from the books.
Not taken seriously by those at ground, laughed at and ridiculed by anyone they would take their story to.


Now, we are finally being given undisclosed encounters, with recordings.

And some clever aviation hobbyists and airmen have been quick to disclose said encounters.



The media format is a little weird on this next video, but I can appreciate the content just the same.

Boeing 747 Followed by a UFO | An Out Of This World Encounter | Japan Air Lines Flight 1628

The crew of a Japan Air Lines Boeing 747 first witnessed two unidentified objects to their left.
These abruptly rose from below and closed in to escort their aircraft.

And here is the associated MUFON file.

Japanese Airlines Flight 1628 - 1986
this is my guilty pleasure. keep it up. i may add some things too over time.
 

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this is my guilty pleasure. keep it up. i may add some things too over time.
I'm with chuk, It's clearly a holdover from my teens but I love this shit.
 

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So... why is this it's own thread and not in the lumie thread? Is the lumie thread not the generic conspiracy thread for ones that don't fit in politics/mass shootings/other specific topics?
 

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Lumi may be confused about geometry, biology, and theology but I don't recall him being confused about the difference between a phenomenon and multiple phenomena.
 

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So... why is this it's own thread and not in the lumie thread? Is the lumie thread not the generic conspiracy thread for ones that don't fit in politics/mass shootings/other specific topics?
Lumie gets his own thread so when someone strolls in there and gets abused I can ask them why they entered the lion's den and complained about the lion.
 

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because Lumi is an 'orrible cunt and nobody wants to enter his poo stained cage
 

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@amod merge with the Lumi batshit thread
 

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The truth is out there! Just like swamp gas and weather baloons.
 

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A few weeks ago, an ufo was spotted over Switzlerand - most likely a plane, but the ATC (named Skyguide here) did not outright say it was a plane. They said they had to analyze the pictures before giving an explanation.
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My 2cp, it was a plane. People fail to realize that at such distance, you basically see in 2D, meaning that you can't really tell if a plane is moving toward you - it's pretty much static. then when it makes a turn, you think it went from static to ultra-fast speed, an acceleration "than no human being could withstand", but all it did was a normal turn.
 

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The difference between the other threads on these matters is I'm presenting Factual accounts and verifiable information.
We just may not have the science figured out just yet.
Many of them (Save for UFO's I think) are occurrences YOU can go and Experience or check out yourselves in real time.

IE Not conspiracies.

The wording I used in my OP wasn't accurate when I referenced "Conspiracy Theory".
It's hard, even for me, to separate that Label from most of these topics when typing them out.
These topics have been branded as "Not Part Of The Narrative" for years.
The Puppet Masters have gone as far as to give things like these a "fake news" vibe, I don't' blame you for reacting with a "I don't believe it" auto-response.

Seriously though.
Open your mind.
Use logic.
Use proven science to analyze these things and events that are covered in this thread.
Draw your own conclusions. If you feel like there is definitely something more to the story, say so.

Additionally, feel free to educate us if you think you have a solid, science based, and provable conclusion.

If you give a shit anyways.
I'm sure that many folks just don't give a shit.
Totally respect that.
However I know that's a tall task for some...

That all said
These topics are more or less X-Files.

Unexplained shit.

Stuff the world wide science community, nor any government in the world [Even with extensive research) is unwilling or uninterested in publicly speaking about.
 

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I always wondered about those cattle mutilations.
 

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A few weeks ago, an ufo was spotted over Switzlerand - most likely a plane, but the ATC (named Skyguide here) did not outright say it was a plane. They said they had to analyze the pictures before giving an explanation.
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My 2cp, it was a plane. People fail to realize that at such distance, you basically see in 2D, meaning that you can't really tell if a plane is moving toward you - it's pretty much static. then when it makes a turn, you think it went from static to ultra-fast speed, an acceleration "than no human being could withstand", but all it did was a normal turn.
Could’ve been a chunk of Chinese Space Station.
 

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I do not believe there are, or ever have been, aliens here on Earth. Nor do I believe in ghosts or spirits or squatches or haunted houses or anything of that nature. I DO believe that the government keeps tons of things from public knowledge, but I DO NOT believe those things are in any way related to aliens or supernatural forces. However, far too many people I work with do believe in some or all of those things.

I have literally had discussions with some of them where they claim loudly and repeatedly that there is no way humans could have invented things like microwaves and computers (don't ask me why those two things in particular), we MUST have had help from aliens. I've even offered to do some research and show a fairly logical progression of inventions/discoveries leading up to both of those items.

I have also had discussions with some about the ghosts that live in their own houses, or the spirits that pull pranks on them, etc. I've had a conversation with one that swears up and down that when he went back home for his father's funeral, he saw his father's ghost at the top of the stairs in his childhood home. I've offered reasonable explanations for all of those things. None of it sways anyone, no matter how convincing or how much more likely they are than "ghosts."

Just as they will likely never be convinced of my point of view, I have watched countless video "proof" that convinces them of their beliefs, and not a single one of them has ever convinced me either. There is always some other more likely explanation, I feel. Sure, I might not know what it is, and I might not ever find out what the truth was, but it is easier for me to believe that it is a trick of the light, or a mind playing tricks, or even someone outright deceiving people than to believe that literally millions of people claim to see aliens and/or ghosts during their lifetime, and there is still no better proof than crappy YouTube videos or blurry photos. I don't know the term for it, but I am convinced that "mass gullibility" is a thing. People want to both belong AND feel special. Seeing UFOs and stuff like that accomplishes both goals. If it ever became "mainstream" to believe in aliens or ghosts or squatches, it would probably drop out of popularity soon after because it was no longer special.

Anyway, TL;DR, cool story bro, but my point being that I will certainly follow this thread because it will likely give me more ammunition, or at least prep me some, in my future arguments along these lines. But it would take an extraordinary level of proof to ever convince me that something is not just a hoax or the human mind striving to make a pattern it recognizes out of something unfamiliar. I'd actually love for that proof to be found some day, because actual proof of alien or supernatural contact would have a profound effect upon humanity and the way we view ourselves. Hopefully for the better, but I'm not overly optimistic when we can't even agree that African witch doctors didn't actually summon lightning on their enemies.
 

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Like I've said, read if you want and do what you will. I'm not here to prove shit all to anyone. If someone likes this stuff, awesome. If not, that's cool too.


First up tonight:

Here is an example from a news clip released a few days ago of what appears to be a ship entering a portal..or perhaps entering Warp speed..very odd.
A number of video bloggers have already slowed down the frame and taken a look at the raw video.
It clearly shows a shiny visible object flying across the night sky, then "Insert Star Trek Warp Flash Here" and it has disappeared.

Mysterious Light and Boom Startles San Jose Residents



Many people witnessed it besides the videos circulating.

What could it have been that we know of?
Some weather trickery? Maybe. We learn new things all the time, but it certainly would be a first from the looks of it.
Firecracker? Firecrackers don't boom like that.
Ball lightning? Not consistent with the phenomenon.
Some military test? Maybe. There are a lot of unannounced missile tests in that area and who knows what else. I feel we would have seen a fireball if it was a missile test. Also a plume from the exhaust.
Any other suggestions?
Trick of light?
 

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MFF is pretty much on the level of Lumie but isn't really a dick, so I'm glad he has his own separate post to quarantine his revelations.
 

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No where near that dudes level of special sauce, but thanks for the props.
Certainly no revelations though.
 

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Bro you should look into Tom Delonge....lol.
 

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I do not believe there are, or ever have been, aliens here on Earth. Nor do I believe in ghosts or spirits or squatches or haunted houses or anything of that nature. I DO believe that the government keeps tons of things from public knowledge, but I DO NOT believe those things are in any way related to aliens or supernatural forces. However, far too many people I work with do believe in some or all of those things.
I feel the same. Although I think there are most certainly alien civilizations "out there", it's highly improbable that they have visited Earth or are even aware of our existence -- the universe is enormous and distances too vast even if they have achieved, somehow, superluminal velocities.

Ghost, demons, et.al are even more improbable as they violate the laws of physics. Yeah, sure, someone might say it's due to our lack of understanding blah blah, but the fact is there are no repeatable tests that we can perform to prove such things. So, yeah, pure fantasy as far as I'm concerned.

BUT, all of that stuff is sure fun as hell to read and speculate about.