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Zindan Zindan is this what you wanted when you said "space"?
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also

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Also, is this really a mobile game? Feels like it should be in the PC & Console Gaming section since most people don't play on mobile... Anyone have a grievance of me asking amod to move it?
 

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Hmm





Zindan Zindan is this what you wanted when you said "space"?
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Also, is this really a mobile game? Feels like it should be in the PC & Console Gaming section since most people don't play on mobile... Anyone have a grievance of me asking amod to move it?
The thing is this goes for a lot of modern gachas, a lot of people play them on consoles/PC. Hell some of them run like shit unless you have the absolute best phones(like WuWa) but you can tell they do well on other platforms because they get awards and shit like that(since they usually don't make their actual sales numbers public). WuWa/ZZZ constantly get playstation awards for example and a few gachas make the list in Steam stuff every year(even when they don't even have Steam exclusivity).

I think it could be moved fine but I also think it's fine to have gachas here so people who don't care about gachas don't see them mentionned.
 

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As for the news, nice free 5*. Not sure who I want to get, I have all standards other than LiFeng but I really don't care about him, on the flipside he's quite good for the non Endmin phys team. Dupes of other chars don't matter all that much either so maybe I'll grab him.

Rest is kinda whatever, lots of nice QoL though
 

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The thing is this goes for a lot of modern gachas, a lot of people play them on consoles/PC. Hell some of them run like shit unless you have the absolute best phones(like WuWa) but you can tell they do well on other platforms because they get awards and shit like that(since they usually don't make their actual sales numbers public). WuWa/ZZZ constantly get playstation awards for example and a few gachas make the list in Steam stuff every year(even when they don't even have Steam exclusivity).

I think it could be moved fine but I also think it's fine to have gachas here so people who don't care about gachas don't see them mentionned.
Quite a few people do play this on phones and tablets. Tablets especially. One part of 'gacha' games is the 'maintenance mode' period where you've done most the content and all you are doing is logging in to do your dailies so that you can maximize your currency for the next banner and prep for the next story drop that is happening. A lot of people in Asian countries do this during their train commute to work etc. So while big boss fights etc might be difficult on all bet the newest phones and tablets its still keeps one foot very much in its mobile roots.

I think keeping it walled off here in the 'Gacha' quarantine zone isn't a bad idea unless it goes seriously mainstream. Though... with all the battlepass's, pay to purchase skins and other fomo mechanics in games these days the line of what is and isn't gacha is blurring. Looking at you FIFA.
 
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Pyros

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Quite a few people do play this on phones and tablets. Tablets especially. One part of 'gacha' games is the 'maintenance mode' period where you've done most the content and all you are doing is logging in to do your dailies so that you can maximize your currency for the next banner and prep for the next story drop that is happening. A lot of people in Asian countries do this during their train commute to work etc. So while big boss fights etc might be difficult on all bet the newest phones and tablets its still keeps one foot very much in its mobile roots.

I think keeping it walled off here in the 'Gacha' quarantine zone isn't a bad idea unless it goes seriously mainstream. Though... with all the battlepass's, pay to purchase skins and other fomo mechanics in games these days the line of what is and isn't gacha is blurring. Looking at you FIFA.
FIFA and other EA similar products are definitely just sports gacha, no difference.

And I wasn't saying people don't play them on phones/tablets at all, just that a significant amount don't, but there's still a lot that do play on mobile devices, hell probably a majority just because of the roots of the games, especially the less action oriented games but even the action ones play decently well if your phone or tablet is good enough.
 

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Quite a few people do play this on phones and tablets. Tablets especially. One part of 'gacha' games is the 'maintenance mode' period where you've done most the content and all you are doing is logging in to do your dailies so that you can maximize your currency for the next banner and prep for the next story drop that is happening.
That's a good point. I wonder what % of the western audience plays on PC during content releases, but then switches to mobile during maintenance mode.
 

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Hmm





Zindan Zindan is this what you wanted when you said "space"?
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Also, is this really a mobile game? Feels like it should be in the PC & Console Gaming section since most people don't play on mobile... Anyone have a grievance of me asking amod to move it?
The zoom out is nice, but not what I wanted when I mentioned space. I'd like a simulated empty space the same size as the current AIC that I could plan out very large configs and save it as a blueprint.

In order to mess around like that I'd have to remove parts of my existing layout.
 

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As for the news, nice free 5*. Not sure who I want to get, I have all standards other than LiFeng but I really don't care about him, on the flipside he's quite good for the non Endmin phys team.

Free 6*

The answer is also Lifeng. You run him with Endmin, Pog and Chen.
 

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Right 6* sometimes I get confused when games have 6* since it's just the same thing with a higher number, hell there isn't even any 123.

I'll probably get Lifeng just to have them all. Sadly don't have any mats to build a 2nd team though, and this stupid Laevatein essence isn't popping, I think I'm like 30runs in and still don't have it, not too unlucky but not great either. I just want to get it so I can go back to farm xp materials and build more chars, I'm interested in both Last Rite and phys stuff but kinda stuck on essence farming for now just so I have a solid full team.
 

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I haven't done any etching or artificing yet and I have been able to complete all of the content I've tried. Also don't have Pog or Endmin's signature weapons. Just gold sets on everyone and level 80.
 

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They're adding harder content soon-ish though so I want the team to be done pretty much(well not done done, all the other chars are 70 and they skills are at like 6 cause that shit's too expensive) before I move on to another.
 

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I've settled into a daily routine now with EF, but there are still things left to do which are not needed now; Essence farming and Artificing, I'll just build up a stock of their respective tickets and do them when I feel weak. Also started the Etchspace thing today and its OK. I have a feeling this might turn into the multi-team content that I dislike, hope not though.

I do wish there was a better Credit farm, as that is the sole limiting factor to building out more than my main four characters, they are at 90/80/80/80, with wpns at 90/80/80/80. Trying to level up a Phys team now hits the Credit wall quick.
 

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Hard not to use the Headhunting reward on Ardelia to unlock

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instead of picking up one of the two I don't have (Last Rite and Ember).

Like you guys have said the cost of leveling a new team is currently so high it's hard to justify right before the harder content is unlocked, hmmmm


Question: Are there expected to be events with higher than normal headhunting rewards? AKA: Should I always just use my Basic Headhuntg tickets whenever I get them, or should I wait for some event?
 

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Hard not to use the Headhunting reward on Ardelia to unlock

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instead of picking up one of the two I don't have (Last Rite and Ember).

Like you guys have said the cost of leveling a new team is currently so high it's hard to justify right before the harder content is unlocked, hmmmm


Question: Are there expected to be events with higher than normal headhunting rewards? AKA: Should I always just use my Basic Headhuntg tickets whenever I get them, or should I wait for some event?
Hard to say. The launch window for a gacha is usually the most generous time for that game other than anniversary events. I would expect every event outside of those two to give less than either. I use the Standard (Basic) banner tickets whenever I have a 10 pull (pure tickets or tickets + currency), no reason so save those as the Standard banner doesn't have the Limited characters to save up for.

If Last Rite and Ember are the only two from the list that you do not have, I would say get a dupe of Ardelia. Last Rite would require a team built around her so she could do her best, while Ember is pure support... but not as good as Ardelia. You'll eventually get both of them anyway, or at least 1 if reach the 300(?) pulls to get a selector, then again, my Ardelia has never been a clutch healer (even with that dupe upgrade).

Lenas Lenas You can buy the Endmin sig weapon for like $1 in the shop or from the Arsenal.
 

Pyros

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Hard not to use the Headhunting reward on Ardelia to unlock



instead of picking up one of the two I don't have (Last Rite and Ember).

Like you guys have said the cost of leveling a new team is currently so high it's hard to justify right before the harder content is unlocked, hmmmm


Question: Are there expected to be events with higher than normal headhunting rewards? AKA: Should I always just use my Basic Headhuntg tickets whenever I get them, or should I wait for some event?
There are patches with higher gacha currency but it's usually stuff like half anniversary/anniversary, or sometimes seasonal patches like christmas/chinese new year/summer kind of thing, just depends on the games. Events specifically yes some will give a lot of pulls while others won't. That's just gonna depend on how they do it. Currently since it's 1.0 we don't really know how they're gonna structure the game income overall until we see 1.1.

To give an example, for HSR/ZZZ which are the Hoyo games I'm familar with, during a patch which are almost always 6 weeks long, you'll get 2 new banners of 3 weeks each and get roughly 100 limited pulls and 25-30 standard pulls. The pulls income is divided in 4 somewhat equal parts, permanent content(new story, new special content like rogue-like dungeon, infinite tower, aoe battles and whatever else similar to Etchspace Salvage in Endfield), recurring content(endgame modes which reset every week or two, in Endfield Umbral Monument which releases on the 12th), events(mini games, special combat event, character events, currently it's been only the char stories but there's more coming this weekend) and check-in stuff(dailies/weeklies).

That said we don't really know how it's structured here since it's release patch and these are always weird. Also always a lot more pulls than usual. The patches are also seemingly longer(but might just be because it's 1.0) and have 3 banners(again might just be because 1.0) so some shit might be switched heavily.

As for basic headhunting(standard banner), you can usually use them as you get them. However sometimes they'll add new chars to it, so holding them for that can be useful IF you don't need anything else. Generally at this point you'll still want 5* and their dupes and maybe also 6* and their dupes so worth using. Problem of waiting is even if you do wait for new chars to be added, there's no guarantee you're gonna RNG into them anyway, so it's kinda whatever. Often new chars added to standard are given for free(a single copy but since dupes aren't too strong in this game that should be enough), and they're mostly lower rarity chars(5* or below).