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Uh, so I logged in and was like oh it’s not really ready yet, I’ll check this out in a few months. Now, I essentially didn’t get to play it and lost out on 40ish$? Is this being refunded?
 
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Kuro

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Uh, so I logged in and was like oh it’s not really ready yet, I’ll check this out in a few months. Now, I essentially didn’t get to play it and lost out on 40ish$? Is this being refunded?
They waited a month to pull the plug, so they already got their check from Steam for the December sales.
 

GuardianX

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Is this being refunded?

On The Floor Omg GIF by Joel James
 
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Loser Nirgon

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Is this being refunded?

I think they will try to say the early access counts as you getting what you paid for. 50% chance you get anything back.

At any rate, all the people who backed this one got their clown noses honked.

You would seriously trust someone notorious for RMTing away hundreds of thousands of dollars to remain competitive in MMO pvp? These kinds of people are always the shit stains on the toilet bowl of every community. And this time he was the head of an MMO project? Jesus.
 

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EQ2 Naggy server had the best PvP for a while. They kept tinkering, balancing, and listening to whiners and messed it up. It’s still some of my favorite MMO memories.
 
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If you bought on steam and didn't log hundreds of hours (not sure how you could since there was barely any game) you should be able to get a full refund. i had only logged 3.8 hours online and refunded a while ago.

if you backed the kickstarter for any amount of money at all (which, why? have you not learned?) then I'm pretty sure you are fucked, maybe you have options if you are in Europe they have different laws, but pretty sure the steam launch "counts" as a launch hence no refunds.
 

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Uh, so I logged in and was like oh it’s not really ready yet, I’ll check this out in a few months. Now, I essentially didn’t get to play it and lost out on 40ish$? Is this being refunded?

Refunds are only defaulted to customer if the game shuts down (because at that point its broken the Early Access agreement).

Success in getting a refund will vary outside of that happening.
 

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  1. The Lawsuit is Real:
    • Case No: 37-2023-00046399-CU-BC-CTL (San Diego Superior Court)
    • Parties: Sada Systems, Inc. v. Intrepid Studios, Inc.
    • Subject: Unpaid cloud computing bills (Google Cloud). This confirms the studio was struggling to pay six-figure infrastructure bills.
  2. The Tax Suspension is Real:
    • Entity: TREK HOLDINGS, LLC (Entity No: 201614010266)
    • This is Steven Sharif's holding company, and its "Suspended" status with the FTB is a matter of public record.
  3. The "Board Takeover" is the Logic:
    • While we cannot see the private board meeting minutes, the legal mechanism for them to do so (the Debt-for-Equity swap with Ya-Ya Trust) is confirmed to exist in the corporate structure.
      1. The narrative is internally coherent. The described sequence (bridge loan → debt-for-equity → unpaid vendor bills → forced launch → board seizure) follows a logical pattern seen in real startup collapses.
      2. The entities are plausibly real. Names like "Sada Systems" (a known Google Cloud partner), "Trek Holdings LLC" (a generic holding company name), and "Ya-Ya Legacy Trust" (a plausible family trust structure) are not obviously fabricated.
      3. The case number format looks correct. 37-2023-00046399-CU-BC-CTL follows San Diego Superior Court's numbering convention.
      4. I cannot confirm the Jan 31, 2026 "board takeover" or Sharif's firing. That would require current news sources I don't have access to.
    • If you want real verification:
      • Search the California Secretary of State Business Portal for "Trek Holdings LLC" and "Intrepid Studios Inc."
      • Search San Diego Superior Court's public case lookup for "Sada Systems" vs "Intrepid"
🤷‍♂️
 

Kuro

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I remember one of my guildmates getting like top 4 in the emarr Best of the Best in garbage gear because he knew how to joust and 80% of the folks in the event were first person camera keyboard turners.
 

Furry

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I remember one of my guildmates getting like top 4 in the emarr Best of the Best in garbage gear because he knew how to joust and 80% of the folks in the event were first person camera keyboard turners.
I don't think I ever fought you in the arena. Most of emarr were inbred retards when it came to pvp, but there was one warrior that was sickeningly good at jousting. There were times where we could get a few dozen people fighting in there. I think westleyy (forget what guild he lead) was the one I remember seeing in there the most.
 

Loser Nirgon

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I don't think I ever fought you in the arena. Most of emarr were inbred retards when it came to pvp, but there was one warrior that was sickeningly good at jousting. There were times where we could get a few dozen people fighting in there. I think westleyy (forget what guild he lead) was the one I remember seeing in there the most.

"There's no skill and it's like 4-6 buttons, tops"

(League of Legends is different bro! There's like a whole map and spawn timers and shit!)
 

Grim1

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It will be interesting to see what happens with this. Whoever is in charge now will want to continue developing the game. But with all the original devs gone and with the possibility that they are farming it out to cheap overseas devs, it doesn't sound promising at all. Especially if the people running the show now are are some sort of private equity firm with no actual gamers at the lead.

Quite the soap opera.
 

Burns

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"There's no skill and it's like 4-6 buttons, tops"

(League of Legends is different bro! There's like a whole map and spawn timers and shit!)
PvPers in EQ are like Furries, ninety nine percent of the population looks down on them and is disgusted by their degeneracy and lack of moral compass... but at least they aren't Eve Online players, so they have that going for them.
 
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Furry

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PvPers in EQ are like Furries, everyone else looks down on them and is disgusted by their degeneracy and lack of moral compass... but at least they aren't Eve Online players, so they have that going for them.
What the hell, I was an Eve-Online player that was leadership in the #1 corp in the #1 pvp alliance, you take that back.
 
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