Assassin's Creed Shadows

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Three sources told Game File that word filtered through the company last July that management in Paris had stopped development of the game for two reasons: 1) online backlash that spring to the reveal of Yasuke, a historically-inspired Black samurai, as a protagonist in the company’s then-upcoming Assassin’s Creed Shadows; and 2) concern that the political climate in the United States was becoming increasingly tense.
In this Reconstruction-era Assassin's Creed, gamers would play as a Black man who had been formerly enslaved in the South and moved west to start a new life. Recruited by the series' Assassins, he would return to the South to fight for justice in a conflict that would, among other things, see him confront the emergence of the Ku Klux Klan.
 
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Guess they’ll just have to move the timeline up to WWII and fight da Nassiz instead as their replacement for white supremacy villain.

As a 17 year old black lesbian female Jew taking out the entire SS in 1941.
 
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Yep. You’ll get to play the origin story of bug-eyed black wahmen from Wolfenstein.
 
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the next game is still supposed to be Hexen, a AC set around the time Romans are hunting witches or some shit and centers around dyke covens and misogny and all that usual shit so i wouldn't be too sure yet

probably need one more mega flop to finally clean house aka go bankrupt
 
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I’m sure they’re just waiting for Stevie Nicks to be sober long enough to finish her voice lines.
 
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Had the opportunity to try out AC Shadows last night. No, I didn't buy it.

Thoughts on it, having played around 2 hours:

-The game should have just been Naoe. She was charismatic and likeable. Also she's, ya know, Japanese, and not tied to a historical figure. I played as Yasuke for like five minutes at the beginning and then he just sorta fucked off while I played as Naoe for two hours, to the point that I forgot Yasuke was even in the game (and it was missing nothing by it). If anything, he should have been one of the villains (if Nobunaga is the bad guy, that is).

-It feels more like a Sekiro clone than an Assassin's Creed game. Seriously, didn't feel like I was playing an AC at all, outside of when I was doing some rooftop ambushes as Naoe.

-There's a moment where Nobunaga says something about how he often wonders if the world would be a better place if they killed all the Christians, then looks right at the camera and smirks. Reminds me of the Yasuke "I don't really care" clip where he looks at the camera and smirks. Did they just have characters look at the camera and smirk every time they said something they knew would piss people off?

-It's very pretty, at least, but I think everything it does, Ghost of Tsushima already did better. Ubisoft missed the boat on doing a Japan AC a long time ago and somebody else picked it up.

-I've played and finished every other main-series AC game ever and I think this one is my second least-favorite, mainly because of how it just doesn't feel like an AC game, but also because there's this weird undercurrent to the whole thing where I can feel hostility from the devs seeping through it. Might just be my imagination, don't know. I would only put it ahead of Valhalla, which was one of the blandest and most drawn-out game experiences I ever had, and I only stuck with it at all because it was more or less a PS5 launch title.
 

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Had the opportunity to try out AC Shadows last night. No, I didn't buy it.

Thoughts on it, having played around 2 hours:

-The game should have just been Naoe. She was charismatic and likeable. Also she's, ya know, Japanese, and not tied to a historical figure. I played as Yasuke for like five minutes at the beginning and then he just sorta fucked off while I played as Naoe for two hours, to the point that I forgot Yasuke was even in the game (and it was missing nothing by it). If anything, he should have been one of the villains (if Nobunaga is the bad guy, that is).

-It feels more like a Sekiro clone than an Assassin's Creed game. Seriously, didn't feel like I was playing an AC at all, outside of when I was doing some rooftop ambushes as Naoe.

-There's a moment where Nobunaga says something about how he often wonders if the world would be a better place if they killed all the Christians, then looks right at the camera and smirks. Reminds me of the Yasuke "I don't really care" clip where he looks at the camera and smirks. Did they just have characters look at the camera and smirk every time they said something they knew would piss people off?

-It's very pretty, at least, but I think everything it does, Ghost of Tsushima already did better. Ubisoft missed the boat on doing a Japan AC a long time ago and somebody else picked it up.

-I've played and finished every other main-series AC game ever and I think this one is my second least-favorite, mainly because of how it just doesn't feel like an AC game, but also because there's this weird undercurrent to the whole thing where I can feel hostility from the devs seeping through it. Might just be my imagination, don't know. I would only put it ahead of Valhalla, which was one of the blandest and most drawn-out game experiences I ever had, and I only stuck with it at all because it was more or less a PS5 launch title.
I picked it up for $40 or so on sale at Ubi. I agree it's hard to tell if this is AC, Sekiro , or GoT. The chick , who is the far weaker of the two, is the better character because she can sneak. The BBC dude is such a tank that when you play him you are immediately 'wanted' and attacked by so many people you die. I have come piece of armor / charm / whatever that allows 'unblockable' (RED) attacks to be parried which is the ONLY good thing about him. It's so damn sad. I used to look forward (hell I used to PREORDER) AC games. How far the series has fallen. I've beaten all the 3D AC's except Mirage, could not get into it nor the side scrollers. Read Mirage has a new DLC that's coming out 'for free' that I may DL and try again.

Game is beautiful with everything maxxed out on my 7900XTX
 

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I picked it up for $40 or so on sale at Ubi. I agree it's hard to tell if this is AC, Sekiro , or GoT. The chick , who is the far weaker of the two, is the better character because she can sneak. The BBC dude is such a tank that when you play him you are immediately 'wanted' and attacked by so many people you die. I have come piece of armor / charm / whatever that allows 'unblockable' (RED) attacks to be parried which is the ONLY good thing about him. It's so damn sad. I used to look forward (hell I used to PREORDER) AC games. How far the series has fallen. I've beaten all the 3D AC's except Mirage, could not get into it nor the side scrollers. Read Mirage has a new DLC that's coming out 'for free' that I may DL and try again.

Game is beautiful with everything maxxed out on my 7900XTX

Yeah, Shadows would be good if it focused on Naoe and left out Yasuke entirely. Guy didn't seem fun to play as and I didn't even get as far as having to sneak around (or try to).

AC Mirage is pretty solid. Old-school AC game with old-school objectives, takes about 15 hours give or take a few. Was nice to get another one of those after the Valhalla debacle and how overlong it and Odyssey were. I definitely prefer the OG style of AC over the open world style of Origins/Odyssey/Valhalla which might as well just be a new series.
 

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I bought a pc earlier this year and it came with this thing free. I played about 30 min or an hour and got bored of running around with blackie. Not saying I should reinstall but I never made it to get the chick playable as I didnt care for the game and since it was my first AC game i didnt know what was going on aside from run into burning village and find boss. Way to much story and wasn't fun to play so I stopped.

What would be a good AC to start with?
 

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What would be a good AC to start with?
Or just don't? But the Ezio trilogy and Black Flag were solid, 1 is just old and hasn't aged well, and 3 was very forgettable. Never played another after Black Flag.
 
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I bought a pc earlier this year and it came with this thing free. I played about 30 min or an hour and got bored of running around with blackie. Not saying I should reinstall but I never made it to get the chick playable as I didnt care for the game and since it was my first AC game i didnt know what was going on aside from run into burning village and find boss. Way to much story and wasn't fun to play so I stopped.

What would be a good AC to start with?

If you like Greek mythology, odyssey. That turned out to be my favorite AC. Black flag pretty close if you like pirates. Origins if you like Egypt. That’s about it. Out of every AC I actually finished Origins, Odyssey, and Valhalla.
 
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I bought a pc earlier this year and it came with this thing free. I played about 30 min or an hour and got bored of running around with blackie. Not saying I should reinstall but I never made it to get the chick playable as I didnt care for the game and since it was my first AC game i didnt know what was going on aside from run into burning village and find boss. Way to much story and wasn't fun to play so I stopped.

What would be a good AC to start with?
If you like old shit or like empty open world games or to see the genesis of that genre, AC1.

If you want to experience an epic saga or like Italian renesciance, AC2.

If you want to enjoy what is a top tier pirate game with some Assassin's Creed in it, AC4 Black Flag.

If you want old greek mythology or want to enjoy a more conventional open-world RPG with character stat growth, AC Odyssey.


I've played a few others and it's hard for me to recommend any other AC games until you've played AC2 and AC4.
 
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If you like old shit or like empty open world games or to see the genesis of that genre, AC1.

If you want to experience an epic saga or like Italian renesciance, AC2.

If you want to enjoy what is a top tier pirate game with some Assassin's Creed in it, AC4 Black Flag.

If you want old greek mythology or want to enjoy a more conventional open-world RPG with character stat growth, AC Odyssey.


I've played a few others and it's hard for me to recommend any other AC games until you've played AC2 and AC4.

Agreed with all of these.

The Ezio trilogy (AC2, AC Brotherhood, AC Revelations) is the high point of the series, and what you should play first unless you hate Renaissance Era Italy for some reason. Can get all 3 of them in one game now. I wasn't that into Revelations but it's the culmination of that story so it's worth playing.

Beyond that, other things worth playing are:

Black Flag + Rogue - These take place in 1700's Americas and they're really good, especially if you like pirates and ship-based combat. AC3 is technically the sequel to both of these but it's a significant step down, only add that at the end if you're really into the ongoing story of the Kenways.

Unity + Syndicate - Unity has been fixed since 2015 and Syndicate was always just kinda ignored. They're both pretty damn good though. One's in Paris and one's in London, so play these if you want to go on a trip to 1800's Europe without leaving your house.

Origins + Odyssey - A significantly bigger time investment than any of the above, as both of these are long open world games. Origin is the beginning of the series going from the standard AC model to the open world model. However, if you like ancient (BC) history, they're both really good games. Just have your schedule open. Origins is Egypt, Odyssey is Greek. I think Odyssey actually takes place before Origins, but it doesn't matter. I'd do Origins first since it's considerably shorter than Odyssey.

I don't really consider AC1, AC3, AC Liberation, Valhalla, or Shadows to be worth playing. If AC1 gets a remaster/remake, then sure.
 
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AC2/black flag/rogue are my favorites

origins and odyssey are honorable mentions

I stopped after odyssey
 
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I *finished* this 87h. I guess it's done New Game + is an option and the credits rolled. This game was way way way way too long. It's the same shit over and over. There was a story but it's so goddamn convoluted I cannot tell you what it was about. Really glad I didn't pay full price for it. Now I have to go back to my pile of unfinished games..............
 

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I *finished* this 87h. I guess it's done New Game + is an option and the credits rolled. This game was way way way way too long. It's the same shit over and over. There was a story but it's so goddamn convoluted I cannot tell you what it was about. Really glad I didn't pay full price for it. Now I have to go back to my pile of unfinished games..............

Sounds like it's about the same (ridiculous) runtime as Valhalla. That pretty much ensures I'll never play it, would have considered it if HLTB was correct and it was around 30-35 hours. Ain't nobody got 80 hours for something like this in this day and age, especially with the kind of backlog I've got.