Battlefield 4 (Frostbite 3)

Elerion

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Thanks, Morsakin, great post.

On the U100, which is the only gun I've used extensively at this point - I have two complaints. The low RPM makes it seem really weak in close quarter engagements, and the lowish mag size doesn't let me spam to suppress when necessary. It sure is accurate on full auto though. Is that enough to make up for its weaknesses?

Note: I suck.
 
Morsakin

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Elerion_sl said:
Thanks, Morsakin, great post.

On the U100, which is the only gun I've used extensively at this point - I have two complaints. The low RPM makes it seem really weak in close quarter engagements, and the lowish mag size doesn't let me spam to suppress when necessary. It sure is accurate on full auto though. Is that enough to make up for its weaknesses?

Note: I suck.
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Indeed, the low RPM makes it less suitable for close range engagements, but given the fact that you're using an LMG, you should optimally not be engaging in point blank engagements unless you have no choice or know they're already lit up and have a health and/or position advantage. Play to the strengths of the class / weapon combo you're using. Suppression isn't nearly as bad as it was in BF3 (thank god) so I wouldn't try to lay down much of it unless you're suspecting a massive push around a corner.

Try to avoid close quarters engagements by flushing them out with XM25 spam (lame weapon, I know, but what the hell, take advantage of it) or nades, preferably a bunch of V40 minis to coat the area in question. Or, once you're high enough with support, just run up to the wall or corner and throw a pack of C4 down.
 
Big Phoenix

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Loyang_sl said:
Are there any hardcore servers yet? When i select hardcore in the filters, i get 0 server found.
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These are hardcore for sure;

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4...-Stupid-Rules/
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4...UEST-HARDCORE/
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4...www-IAOFF-com/

Lots of stupid servers will say they are hardcore in their title, but join then and theyre not for whatever idiotic reason. I cant fucking stand normal mode. Found a good hiding spot? NOPE! Want to use some concealment? NOPE! Want to kill a person isnt at point blank range with less than 3 shots? NOPE!
 
Kreugen

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Does getting killed by a teammate still count as a regular death on your score? Because fuck that shit.

I know exactly why I barely hover over a 1.0 - if there are no enemies around, I'm charging to where I can find them regardless of if any of my allies are coming with me. When in cover I might spend a few seconds scanning for targets before moving on, even if I know that I'm at a spot that is likely to get traffic soon. No moss grows on my ass that's for sure. This is not a smart way to play, but I don't like waiting around and I don't care about collecting cheap easy kills. I also don't take a nap in my tank while waiting for someone to play gunner for me, although I will helpfully steer my tank directly onto people who are on foot in the hopes that they like free kills and money. (my best games are nearly always in a tank or in domination And I REALLY miss Tank Destroyers from AK)

That said, I really need to reign it in some because a few games I started in a bad hole (0-9 fuck me and fuck the PDW) and had to smarten up to bring it back. And obviously, you can't get a lot of kills if every time you kill one guy, the giant dorito over your head makes you an easy target for his 10 buddies in the area. It's REALLY hard to string a bunch of kills together when alone, even if you have an awesome flanking opportunity, because the mini-map fucks you. The entire game is made to make lone wolf the wrong way to play. And I'll still post over a 1.0 doing it, so yay me and stuff.

When I do get a beastly game while playing stupid it's fucking satisfying that's for sure.
 
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Morsakin_sl said:
Indeed, the low RPM makes it less suitable for close range engagements, but given the fact that you're using an LMG, you should optimally not be engaging in point blank engagements unless you have no choice or know they're already lit up and have a health and/or position advantage. Play to the strengths of the class / weapon combo you're using. Suppression isn't nearly as bad as it was in BF3 (thank god) so I wouldn't try to lay down much of it unless you're suspecting a massive push around a corner.

Try to avoid close quarters engagements by flushing them out with XM25 spam (lame weapon, I know, but what the hell, take advantage of it) or nades, preferably a bunch of V40 minis to coat the area in question. Or, once you're high enough with support, just run up to the wall or corner and throw a pack of C4 down.
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What is your take on the ACE 52 CQB carbine? This is the gun I was going for to unlock and it did not disappoint. I noticed you didn't recommend it and I'm just wondering why. I know it has a lower rate of fire but the power it's packing is nice.
 
Foggy

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Kreugen_sl said:
Does getting killed by a teammate still count as a regular death on your score? Because fuck that shit.

I know exactly why I barely hover over a 1.0 - if there are no enemies around, I'm charging to where I can find them regardless of if any of my allies are coming with me. When in cover I might spend a few seconds scanning for targets before moving on, even if I know that I'm at a spot that is likely to get traffic soon. No moss grows on my ass that's for sure. This is not a smart way to play, but I don't like waiting around and I don't care about collecting cheap easy kills. I also don't take a nap in my tank while waiting for someone to play gunner for me, although I will helpfully steer my tank directly onto people who are on foot in the hopes that they like free kills and money. (my best games are nearly always in a tank or in domination And I REALLY miss Tank Destroyers from AK)

That said, I really need to reign it in some because a few games I started in a bad hole (0-9 fuck me and fuck the PDW) and had to smarten up to bring it back. And obviously, you can't get a lot of kills if every time you kill one guy, the giant dorito over your head makes you an easy target for his 10 buddies in the area. It's REALLY hard to string a bunch of kills together when alone, even if you have an awesome flanking opportunity, because the mini-map fucks you. The entire game is made to make lone wolf the wrong way to play. And I'll still post over a 1.0 doing it, so yay me and stuff.

When I do get a beastly game while playing stupid it's fucking satisfying that's for sure.
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This happens to me as well. I either become bored and charge in or become sick of my team camping and sucking so I charge by myself to targets. I hover around 2 to 1 doing it though, yay me!
 
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Once the fucking sound loop crash is fixed and things are as stable as they can be, I will be predominantly playing on hardcore servers. I can't stand normal.
 
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I personally switched to windowed mode and stayed away from large servers and have had no crashes since. Not sure if I just got lucky or that mattered.

On the matter of guns why the recon gun m40? According to everything I have seen it is the same as the starter gun.
 
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this game keeps sucking me in but everytime I get to checkout and see it's EXACTLY the same price as a hard copy I back out. Their greed is keeping me from buying this game, thanks EA you keep saving me 70 bucks!
 
Foggy

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Just installed an update and now I cannot make it through a game without crashing. Great job Dice. Bunch of fucking morons. Beta was very stable.

So how do you switch to 32 bit client from 64?
 
Morsakin

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Dudebro_sl said:
What is your take on the ACE 52 CQB carbine? This is the gun I was going for to unlock and it did not disappoint. I noticed you didn't recommend it and I'm just wondering why. I know it has a lower rate of fire but the power it's packing is nice.
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It's great in the right situations, I was merely listing early to mid-range unlocks for each class, seeing as most people aren't anywhere near maxing out the points necessary to unlock a given class's weapons.
 
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Morsakin_sl said:
It's great in the right situations, I was merely listing early to mid-range unlocks for each class, seeing as most people aren't anywhere near maxing out the points necessary to unlock a given class's weapons.
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It's going to be especially rough leveling up sniper rifles, since marksman bonus etc doesn't count toward them. You pretty much only get the 100 pts per kill.... and that's it.
 
Foggy

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I now crash every single game. Cool stuff. Latest drivers, restarted, etc.... sigh.
 
Elerion

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Hekotat_sl said:
this game keeps sucking me in but everytime I get to checkout and see it's EXACTLY the same price as a hard copy I back out. Their greed is keeping me from buying this game, thanks EA you keep saving me 70 bucks!
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Uhm, all new games are the same price to download as hard copies. Otherwise they would put brick and mortar stores out of business.
 
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