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Tholan

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Bought it; I fucking suck at this it's amazing. Oh, how far away my glory days on Unreal Tournament are!

Anyway : the game crashes a lot on my computer, like once every 3 matches, and the game randomly start again. Very buggy.

Question : is it me or SW: Battlefront 2 had better graphic than that, despite using more or less the same engine ?
 
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Tholan said:
Bought it; I fucking suck at this it's amazing. Oh, how far away my glory days on Unreal Tournament are!

Anyway : the game crashes a lot on my computer, like once every 3 matches, and the game randomly start again. Very buggy.

Question : is it me or SW: Battlefront 2 had better graphic than that, despite using more or less the same engine ?
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I haven't crashed even once now that you mention it. I really liked BF2 graphics. I'd say they are about even. I'd give the nod to BF2 graphics because I (used to) love Star Wars!
 
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The cognitive dissonance on these forums over the last five or so years has become sad. Ever since most of you officially entered your "boomerdom" era, it's like collective amnesia set in and turned into a full-blown epidemic. The way people rewrite history around here would make a Soviet propagandist blush. Bad Company 2 - you know, basically the 2nd or 3rd best FPS of all-time and the one everyone here genuflects to as the "last great shooter" before "the fall"? Well, it also had unlocks, my guy. Weapons, attachments, specializations, all of it. You had to actually play the damn game to get your toys.

But the funniest part isn't the revisionism, it's the unhinged self-contradiction. This forum loves to rail against "zoomers". Oh, those impatient little dopamine goblins who "want everything handed to them" and "don't understand what it was like back in our day." Yet the same people crying about the youth's lack of patience are also the ones throwing tantrums because their entire loadout isn't unlocked within 30 minutes of booting up.

And the kicker is if the game did unlock everything up front, people here would still complain. "Oh my god, everything's unlocked right away! These teeny-boppers have such an advantage! X gun is so OP!" You want the grind, but not the grind. You want nostalgia, but only the selective parts that don't require effort. You want to feel superior to a generation you barely understand while holding them to a standard you can't even meet yourselves.

Every time I see one of these threads, I don't even get mad anymore. I just marvel at the consistency of the inconsistency.
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I don't think we forgot man, I think it was much quicker and you didn't mind because it was something to look forward to.

Let's use BC2 as you suggest. I will use the M60. It was OP out the box and if I remember didn't even have unlocks. So every LMG gun fan was happy. You worked on the other LMG attachments, that opened up pretty quickly, and gave tweaks as opposed to full blown 10000% increase in power!!!!

Lets use the AN94 (this was my go to gun for assault). It was just unlocked at 25? That's it. Or if you bought the gold edition or some shit, it was immediate. Again acceptable.

This shit here they trying with BF6? It's just some gay ass shit to obviously get you to purchase a battle pass or something.

If everything opened upfront I doubt people would care as long as the gameplay was great.

The solution really is you just get points toward your gun being used, that you spend on the attachments you want. Let you try the attachments prior to spending points in the firing range. That's it!

BF6 is still just straight up fun IMO. Needs more Valparaiso and Arica harbor type maps (Balanced and pretty fair for both sides.) Also waaay more larger maps.
 
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yeah i don't give a fuck about unlocks no amount of max weapons is gonna make me better at dying to faggot ass snipers camping in their spawn spot



thats just raw msrp sales too, not counting the EA Pro subs which has to be substantial for this launch
 
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spronk said:
yeah i don't give a fuck about unlocks no amount of max weapons is gonna make me better at dying to faggot ass snipers camping in their spawn spot



thats just raw msrp sales too, not counting the EA Pro subs which has to be substantial for this launch
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Man...I was playing the Manhattan map, and EVERY time I stuck my head up I got popped.
 
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Brahma said:
Man...I was playing the Manhattan map, and EVERY time I stuck my head up I got popped.
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That's why CQC choke point map design sucks ass. You can't flank, you can't do anything. It was the main reason I didn't want to buy the game. People will learn where to camp and it'll end up like Metro on basically every map.
 
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Masakari

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I'm REALLY hoping they take into account some of the feedback on the maps and release some better designed ones, or re-design some of the current ones.

Would also be nice to have a massive map with 2x the max vehicles we're seeing now. Vehicle warfare is a BF staple feature.

Still loving the L110 as support 🤪 shreds with the right set up.
 
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The fun police just got me.

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Brahma said:
I don't think we forgot man, I think it was much quicker and you didn't mind because it was something to look forward to.

Let's use BC2 as you suggest. I will use the M60. It was OP out the box and if I remember didn't even have unlocks. So every LMG gun fan was happy. You worked on the other LMG attachments, that opened up pretty quickly, and gave tweaks as opposed to full blown 10000% increase in power!!!!

Lets use the AN94 (this was my go to gun for assault). It was just unlocked at 25? That's it. Or if you bought the gold edition or some shit, it was immediate. Again acceptable.

This shit here they trying with BF6? It's just some gay ass shit to obviously get you to purchase a battle pass or something.

If everything opened upfront I doubt people would care as long as the gameplay was great.

The solution really is you just get points toward your gun being used, that you spend on the attachments you want. Let you try the attachments prior to spending points in the firing range. That's it!

BF6 is still just straight up fun IMO. Needs more Valparaiso and Arica harbor type maps (Balanced and pretty fair for both sides.) Also waaay more larger maps.
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It just feels slower now because games are built differently. Back in BC2, sure, unlocks came at a decent clip, but that was also because the game itself wasn't drowning in fifty different systems fighting for your attention. It wasn't quicker so much as cleaner.

The M60 example's fair. It was nuts out of the gate, but that actually kind of proves the opposite point. When everything's overpowered or unlocked right away, the balance gets shot to hell fast. That early power trip was fun for a week, but it also wrecked pacing and variety. People like to remember it fondly, but it wasn't exactly "fair" either.

Same with the AN94. Yeah, rank 25 wasn't bad, but it still gave you something to aim for. That sense of gradual progression mattered. I get that modern monetization makes things gross sometimes (and yeah, the battle pass stuff in BF6 feels exploitative), but the idea of unlocking gear isn't the problem in itself. It's just been buried under FOMO design.

If everything were unlocked from the start, I actually do think people would care. Maybe not consciously, but that slow feed of new toys is part of what kept people playing. Take that away and the game loses a layer of motivation.

Totally agree about the maps, though. Valparaiso and Arica Harbor are still gold standards. Tight, fair, and fun. More of that, less of the live-service clutter.
 
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