Test drove a 2013 GT-R. Best car I've ever fucking drove, without contest. I've drove a 911, Ferrari, and a high-end Mercedes to compare. (Haven't tried a Lamb yet.)
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Ya, thanks for advice. Finally got a chance to drive it a bit today - really fun little car fo sho. Going to enjoy it (at least while its under warranty) a lot more around town than the truck, which is relegated to field visits and meetings with country bumpkins.
The next vehicle I will buy will be a Tesla Model X probably sometime in 2015. And if they can double the battery life by then...I'm definitely sold.
If the reviews for it are as nice as the reviews for the S, I might be sold.
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Yeah, that's pretty nice. Any idea on pricing yet?
In BMW news, I was pretty sad to read the M3 is being discontinued and being replaced with the M4. The V8 replaced with a TT 6 cylinder. I had my sights on the M3 in the next year or so, but that plan might change now.
In BMW news, I was pretty sad to read the M3 is being discontinued and being replaced with the M4. The V8 replaced with a TT 6 cylinder. I had my sights on the M3 in the next year or so, but that plan might change now.
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I was visiting a vendor in San Diego a few weeks ago and he has a Mercedes C63 AMG and he was raving about that feature, though he said when he first got the car he didn't know about it. He thought he got a lemon. I was thinking it sounded annoying. If you're spending over 70 grand on a car, are you that concerned about saving a few bucks on gas? Is the gas you're saving from that feature even noticeable?
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What difference does it make what it's called? It's the same car. BMW has been talking about separating the 3 series coupes in to a 4 series for a decade or more. No different than the 5/6 series. As far as the engine change goes, that's not really surprising, it's all about getting better fuel economy. It was only a V8 for what, 5 years? Before that it was an inline 6.
I think it's more about regulatory requirements than anything. I've never driven a vehicle with that feature, but I'd imagine it's pretty seamless. Why do you even give a shit?Soygen_sl said:
What exactly is the problem with that feature?grumblethorn_sl said:
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I have not tested one yet, but the C63 AMG was on my short list coming up at the end of the year to look at. Any overall thoughts and initial impressions?
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I don't care what it's called. We'll see if it's the same car. As for the V8, it sounds like a V8. That's a big plus.
As for the engine shutting off being a regulatory thing, what regulation is that exactly? It seems to be a feature on mostly high-end cars. Is it something that's supposed to be on everything at some point?
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It's a beautiful beast would be my impression of my, albeit short, exposure to his car. It moves. He had it fully loaded too, which I could definitely not get close to affording. His wife's daily driver is a Bentley GT, so the guy isn't hurting for cash.
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I agree on the sound, no question. But really, a lot of "purists" were pissed that the M3 went to a V8 in the first place with the E90 series. Not to mention, the E90 coupe was supposed to be called an M4 as well, but BMW changed it's mind before it was released. Like I said, the number change has been something BMW has been considering for over a decade now, to line it up both with the 5/6 Series BMW's as well as the S4/S5 series from Audi.I don't care what it's called. We'll see if it's the same car. As for the V8, it sounds like a V8. That's a big plus.
It'll be the same car, regardless of what it's called. By the looks of it, it'll be a couple inches wider and longer, just like the E90 was bigger than the E46 that came before it. Come to think of it, even with the E90 series, the coupe and sedan were different platforms (they weren't previously), so with that generation BMW was calling two different cars by the same number.
I just mean from an overall fuel efficiency regulation perspective. Yes, you'll likely see it on most cars over the coming years.Soygen_sl said:
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With all those factors and control/safety checks- how often will that actually turn off the engine? hurmmm
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You do realize the M3 is not being discontinued, right? The 3 series has split where it previously had a sedan and coupe version both available ( 4dr vs 2dr respectively). Now they are keeping the 3 series as the 4 door sedan and came up with the 4 series as a more sport oriented 2dr version of the same. The new M3 will be released the same time as the M4 as a 2014 Model and they are built on the same platform.
http://www.bimmerpost.com/tag/2014-m3/
You can turn off this "feature" through the iDrive menu.
As mentioned, it was created not only for better gas mileage (Europe) but it keeps the consumption figures down for the whole range. This comes into play in certain regulations for corporate average fuel economy restrictions, etc.http://www.nhtsa.gov/fuel-economy