Castlevania

I hope they see a drop in viewership from this ish

Pathetic.meme

Still have not /watched an episode/ but I re-watched the 1st seasons Castlevania attack w/ Blood Tears remix, and it was still just so darn good... then I watched the later season of the first one and noticed the animation took a sharp hit... it most likely was gradual.. but I think it was season 2? to 4 and wow... so I got draw into watching some of Nocturne's fights... nowhere near that first 2 or 3 seasons quality of the first Castlevania anime... mabye like the final seasons, but the animation was just not as good.

Magic bird attacks was funny.

I guess I will spoiler this...no idea where it happens in the show.

wormie said:

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Noble savages do not kill children. Only white people kill children. Duh

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... I aint spoilering this...

Orlox like...has a history in vampire lord in general... and in CV world/lore he is usually /Nosfuratu/ type... so WHITE WHITE PALE WHITE..

I was not even going to bother complaining about that... but yeah, its lulz

wormie said:

Spoiler

Noble savages do not kill children. Only white people kill children. Duh

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Counter argument, although with crazy bitches

wormie said:

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Noble savages do not kill children. Only white people kill children. Duh

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lol so if they kept him as he should have been they would have been free to have him do it lol

Just don't watch the show... I watched a few clips, they were fun, but I am just going to re watch the CV3 part of the first series, the post CV3 stuff was not that great imo, they could have done Curse of Darkness... hence why the heck Victor and Issac even EXISTED IN THE ANIME.. but noooo

edit: Curse of Darkness is the CV3 sequel, not Lord of... sorry... rustled, they had the friggen plot why did they change it? if they wanted to go girl vampire lord power, why even bring in Issac and Victor? Why even have the devil forge masters... it was a dumb thing even in game, no one asked or cared for a plot reason Drac had bad guys infesting his castle for you to whip.

Rajaah said:

Is this show any good? The Harley/Ivy one where they're crazy lesbians and fly around in a spaceship shaped like a penis.

It looks completely off the wall, batshit crazy. The two leads are hot. Could be either really good or atrociously bad.

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generally well liked by people that don't read the comics. its hipster as fuuuuuck. you know where every character is a satirical deconstruction of the comic book version of that character. everything is ironic. everything is a joke. nothing is sincere. like what they've done with DnD, etc.

Rajaah said:

Is this show any good? The Harley/Ivy one where they're crazy lesbians and fly around in a spaceship shaped like a penis.

It looks completely off the wall, batshit crazy. The two leads are hot. Could be either really good or atrociously bad.

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It’s pretty funny. They lampoon a lot of characters, straight up murder some, and dial up some things. It lets them play around with plot lines that wouldn’t normally get tried, though. Like highlighting just how mentally fucked up
Batman is, Mr Freeze sacrifices himself to revive his wife and she starts sleeping around immediately, a plot where Joker basically becomes Bernie Sanders, etc.

Since when has that last bulletpoint ever been part of Castlevania? Dude is tipping his hand with that

Culturally Japan and Christianity have had a very complicated relationship and that is usually reflected in the games and media from that country.

Ehh,

I know it was mentioned, and I know its been a referenced Anime trope...and I will say its /Catholic/ depictions not /Christian/ but then we end up in the Catholic v orthodox v protestant thread..

BUT...

In Castlevania universe, Belmont's have been always a religious link, and a positive one. Even if this is only to pay heed to Brham's Dracula origin that IS Dracula's origin because Lament of Innocence is still cannon in game and anime. Dracula became Dracula after being a "Man of God" and then did such a dramatic 180 that his curse against God was so much of a shift it was /nearly/ the same as Satan betrayal. Lord of Shadows not withstanding.

So, the counter has always been "true" religion, GENERALLY represented in the Belmonts - heck Simon buries and prays for Dracula at the end of CV2.

Items are pro-religion, holy water, holy rain, crosses etc. even if this is "vampire tropes" - it is "Castlevania" and not fully in alignment with the standard anime trope in their odd views of western religion.

This is also why I did not like the change in the anime from, I think S1 to S2, or S2 to S3 - I forgot exactly when... I think it was 1.

The setup was defending the town, the "priest" that was obviously evil, stays in the church and abandons the town - Belmont and co are there to defend it, but cannot do it alone - they needed help- and that came from a lone devout monk to make the holy water - while in contrasting the evil priest figured he was "safe" in the church and by /his role/ - while that proved absolutely false and he got eaten while, the devout /true to God/ humble Monk was successful in making holy water that WAS affective.

and that leads to why I HATED that an undead, mind controlled, evil priest (I think it was the same character) was able to just go make the entire river holy water, after explicitly showing (by way of the ending where he got killed) that his false religious 'powers' were nothing. Sure it made a good scene THEN, and was a pivotal tactical move- but imo broke and destroyed the ending of the past season showing the power of God and true believers vs. the arrogant man-god religion used for men's selfish desires.

So... Castlevania imo does not fall within the standard anime tropes of being Western Religion (Generally Catholic in portrayal) is evil/false/useless/bad - so the bullet point, again, imo, stands.

Siliconemelons said:

The setup was defending the town, the "priest" that was obviously evil, stays in the church and abandons the town - Belmont and co are there to defend it, but cannot do it alone - they needed help- and that came from a lone devout monk to make the holy water - while in contrasting the evil priest figured he was "safe" in the church and by /his role/ - while that proved absolutely false and he got eaten while, the devout /true to God/ humble Monk was successful in making holy water that WAS affective.

and that leads to why I HATED that an undead, mind controlled, evil priest (I think it was the same character) was able to just go make the entire river holy water, after explicitly showing (by way of the ending where he got killed) that his false religious 'powers' were nothing. Sure it made a good scene THEN, and was a pivotal tactical move- but imo broke and destroyed the ending of the past season showing the power of God and true believers vs. the arrogant man-god religion used for men's selfish desires

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I forgot about that - the season 1 elements highlighted a more positive view on true belief in the message vs corrupt people cloaking themselves with “belief” as a means to enrich themselves. Like for example, the humble priest that just wants people to be good to eachother vs the televangelist who wants thousands of people to send “donations” that they turn around and use to buy a private jet or mansion.

The undead priest, while a cool moment, does cheapen that season 1 element that basically suggested that god abandoned the evil priest. But that probably got chalked up to “rule of cool” overriding/overlooking that plot hole

Siliconemelons said:

they needed help- and that came from a lone devout monk to make the holy water

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Interestingly, I read that scene the exact opposite of how you did. At the end of S1, Trevor explicitly asks for "a priest, one who was properly ordained in a church" to create holy water, and then asks him if he knows what to do with it "for the Aspersion", which to me implied that A. the church was functionally identical to a group of ritual spellcasters for the purposes of holy water and B. faith or belief or 'having God's favor' wasn't relevant to the ability to create holy water.


You resurrect an enemy spellcaster, you can use their magic. IMO fits pretty well with the way the show treats all the rest of the mystical stuff. I also like that the cardinal's body then burns in the holy water, because it's now also undead-type. Great almost immersive-sim style interaction there, which again, fits pretty well with how the rest of the magic felt. Very tactile.

Trying to think if there were any scenes of God granting power through faith vs people summoning it through ritual in the original series... I can't recall any, but could be wrong.

Rule of cool is maybe the most likely, but above is how I rationalize it.