College Football 2014-15
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Foggy
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I don't really care where they are ranked, especially this year, but based off your logic of beating people, the bottom three should be:
3a) TCU
3b) Texas
3c) TTech
TCU hasn't done anything to warrant "head and shoulders above" status. They all play each other, except A&M who plays a bunch of team that aren't sure if the forward pass is legal, so we will be able to accurately rank 4 of the 5. Last year Texas was third (assuming you slot A&M in at 2) and that team was pretty bad.
You are right, it is up for debate between Baylor and A&M. I just don't respect A&M as being a legit team. They never did anything in the Big 12, finishing top half of the league was a chore for them. They join the SEC and suddenly are unstoppable and win a Heisman. It has more to do with the SEC not knowing how to counter a spread uptempo offense on a weekly basis. This applies to Mizzou as well. Y'all couldn't touch any of the Big 12 south teams and suddenly you win the SEC East. Y'all managed to beat Texas one time during your entire stay in the Big 12 and it was because Texas was a dumpster fire, not Mizzou being good. That says more about the real quality of the SEC than anything else.
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Shepard Smith loves Ole Miss, hates LSU, reads SBnation
Ole Miss fan Shepard Smith ranks LSU rivalry *way* ahead of Egg Bowl - SBNation.com
Ole Miss fan Shepard Smith ranks LSU rivalry *way* ahead of Egg Bowl - SBNation.com
Joeboo
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I think TCU has a legit, elite-level defense this year, but their offense is suspect. That puts them a step ahead of both Tech and Texas, who are suspect on all sides of the ball.
And as far as Mizzou vs Texas...well, just be glad we haven't played in the last few years because Texas would be riding a 3 or 4 game losing streak to us.
Yes, Missouri was terrible in the 90s when the B12 started, and pretty bad still in the early 2000s when Pinkel first arrived. We finally put together a great offense circa 05-10(Brad Smith, Chase Daniel, Blaine Gabbert, etc) but that happened to also coincide with the best years that Texas had(Vince Young to Colt McCoy), and your high-powered offense was just a tad better than ours, which continued our losing streak through those years.
The difference now though is our defense, which is night and day better than it ever was in the Big 12, multiple 1st round defensive lineman put into the NFL in recent years, 6 1st round defensive draft picks in the last 5 years, Aldon Smith, Sheldon Richardson(NFL defensive rookie of the year last year), etc. Our offense may have taken a slight step back from those peak years under Chase Daniel, but our defense is order of magnitudes better, and the team as a whole is better. (also thanks in part to getting a LOT of recruits out of SEC states the last few years)
And as far as Mizzou vs Texas...well, just be glad we haven't played in the last few years because Texas would be riding a 3 or 4 game losing streak to us.
Yes, Missouri was terrible in the 90s when the B12 started, and pretty bad still in the early 2000s when Pinkel first arrived. We finally put together a great offense circa 05-10(Brad Smith, Chase Daniel, Blaine Gabbert, etc) but that happened to also coincide with the best years that Texas had(Vince Young to Colt McCoy), and your high-powered offense was just a tad better than ours, which continued our losing streak through those years.
The difference now though is our defense, which is night and day better than it ever was in the Big 12, multiple 1st round defensive lineman put into the NFL in recent years, 6 1st round defensive draft picks in the last 5 years, Aldon Smith, Sheldon Richardson(NFL defensive rookie of the year last year), etc. Our offense may have taken a slight step back from those peak years under Chase Daniel, but our defense is order of magnitudes better, and the team as a whole is better. (also thanks in part to getting a LOT of recruits out of SEC states the last few years)
Foggy
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You make it sound like you were almost on Texas' level in the Big 12. From 04 through 09 the combined score was 172 to 78. Our offense was just atadbetter indeed. We also had elite defenses every year.
Gratz on 6 1st round defensive draft picks in 5 years, too bad 3 of those years were in the Big 12.
And yes you could have probably beaten Texas the last 3 or 4 years. Any team with a pulse can say that. That is about Texas being shitty (thanks Mack!) and not Mizzou magically becoming a real team when it joined the SEC.
Foggy
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Deloss doesn't measure good and bad years by number of wins. He measures it by the amount of $$$ UT makes. In which case, he is 100% right.
He is the same guy that said losing was good for Texas because it will help fans enjoy success more. Fuck you Deloss. You too Mack. And you too Powers. /sigh
Come on Strong. I'm counting on you! And if you fail, in 4 years, I'm counting on you <INSERT NAME OF HOT SHOT OFFENSIVE COACH>!
He is the same guy that said losing was good for Texas because it will help fans enjoy success more. Fuck you Deloss. You too Mack. And you too Powers. /sigh
Come on Strong. I'm counting on you! And if you fail, in 4 years, I'm counting on you <INSERT NAME OF HOT SHOT OFFENSIVE COACH>!
Joeboo
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Coaching salaries in the current AP Top 25
2014 guaranteed money for head coaches (sorted by Week 6 Top 25)
1. Florida State: Jimbo Fisher - $3.5 million
2. Oregon: Mark Helfrich - $1.8 million
3. Alabama: Nick Saban - $6.9 million (CFB's highest-paid)
4. Oklahoma: Bob Stoops - $5.2 million
5. Auburn: Gus Malzahn - $3.8 million
6. Texas A&M: Kevin Sumlin - $5 million
7. Baylor: Art Briles - Undisclosed.
8. UCLA: Jim Mora - $3.2 million
9. Notre Dame: Brian Kelly - Undisclosed.
10. Michigan State: Mark Dantonio - $3.2 million
11. Ole Miss: Hugh Freeze - $3 million
12. Mississippi State: Dan Mullen - $2.8 million
13. Georgia: Mark Richt - $5.4 million
14. Stanford: David Shaw - Undisclosed.
15. LSU: Les Miles - $4.3 million
16. USC: Steve Sarkisian - Undisclosed.
17. Wisconsin: Gary Andersen - $2.2 million
18. BYU: Bronco Mendenhall - Undisclosed.
19. Nebraska: Bo Pelini - $3.1 million
20. Ohio State: Urban Meyer - $4.5 million
21. Oklahoma State: Mike Gundy - $2.9 million
22. East Carolina: Ruffin McNeill - $1.2 million
23. Kansas State: Bill Snyder - $2.8 million
24. Missouri: Gary Pinkel - $3.1 million
25. TCU: Gary Patterson - Undisclosed.
Christ Georgia, that's a lot of money
2014 guaranteed money for head coaches (sorted by Week 6 Top 25)
1. Florida State: Jimbo Fisher - $3.5 million
2. Oregon: Mark Helfrich - $1.8 million
3. Alabama: Nick Saban - $6.9 million (CFB's highest-paid)
4. Oklahoma: Bob Stoops - $5.2 million
5. Auburn: Gus Malzahn - $3.8 million
6. Texas A&M: Kevin Sumlin - $5 million
7. Baylor: Art Briles - Undisclosed.
8. UCLA: Jim Mora - $3.2 million
9. Notre Dame: Brian Kelly - Undisclosed.
10. Michigan State: Mark Dantonio - $3.2 million
11. Ole Miss: Hugh Freeze - $3 million
12. Mississippi State: Dan Mullen - $2.8 million
13. Georgia: Mark Richt - $5.4 million
14. Stanford: David Shaw - Undisclosed.
15. LSU: Les Miles - $4.3 million
16. USC: Steve Sarkisian - Undisclosed.
17. Wisconsin: Gary Andersen - $2.2 million
18. BYU: Bronco Mendenhall - Undisclosed.
19. Nebraska: Bo Pelini - $3.1 million
20. Ohio State: Urban Meyer - $4.5 million
21. Oklahoma State: Mike Gundy - $2.9 million
22. East Carolina: Ruffin McNeill - $1.2 million
23. Kansas State: Bill Snyder - $2.8 million
24. Missouri: Gary Pinkel - $3.1 million
25. TCU: Gary Patterson - Undisclosed.
Christ Georgia, that's a lot of money
OU Ariakas
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That is grade A hubris right there. The kind you have to let breathe for a while after opening. Makes you wonder why he "retired" during the bad years if things were so peachy in Austin.
I still believe Texas has too many structural advantages to suck for much longer, though. Like they're going to be better than Baylor and TCU again.
Foggy
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Pretty much. At some point Texas will actually use its obscene amount of money and buy its way to success again. What Strong is doing now is paving the way to success, I'm just not sure he will be around to enjoy it.
Is that par for the course for you? Say something fucking retarded and then claim "sarcasm" when someone embarrasses you on it?
Keep on Keep'in on little kid.
Not that it really matters, but it also isn't accurate.
Salaries & Contracts
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Do I need to spend the whole evening educating bitches, or are we done here?
Borzak
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Looks like LSU got a bargain then, I believe he is the winningest coach for the last decade in FBS. Of course many of those coaches didn't coach for a full decade.Is that par for the course for you? Say something fucking retarded and then claim "sarcasm" when someone embarrasses you on it?
Keep on Keep'in on little kid.
Not that it really matters, but it also isn't accurate.
Salaries & Contracts
http://onlineathens.com/sports/colle...0k-raise-richt
Do I need to spend the whole evening educating bitches, or are we done here?
I assume the contracts of most coaches at a public university are available on the internet if you search, at least it is at LSU even tho the school only pays him about $400k.
Kaines
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Texas has to be given mega respect by any team going into Austin. They are currently undefeated in Big 12 play and have a history of Big 12 championships, national championships and heisman winners. They have to be respected by every team that plays them, especially in Austin. It's going to be a great game. Sic 'em Bears.
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If the last decade has taught us anything it is that the game will be decided by 3-5 points with at least one exceptionally questionable call on special teams culminating in a crazy one minute drill with Les calling the least statistically relevant play regardless of the situation at hand.
In other words, it'll be fun.
In other words, it'll be fun.