College Football 2014-15

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Dumar_sl said:
Sneaking up? My good sir, that was the best win of the CFB season so far, much better than Oregon's. We should be higher, but you know, ESPN interests have to keep the SEC in the playoff picture.

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Ohio St made it 9 weeks into their schedule before they played a ranked team...and don't have another on their schedule. The combined record of all of their opponents leading up to the Michigan St game was 36-35. Their schedule is barely better than Marshalls.

Auburn has played teams with a combined record of 56-29, including games against 4 ranked teams(#3, #4, #15, #20) up to this point(and 2 more on their schedule, #5, #20).

I'd easily rank a 2 loss Auburn above a 1-loss Ohio St
 
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I would love to see Auburn play ohio state... In the beef o bradys bowl or the Kraft Fight Hunger bowl. Otherwise they can suck it!


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joeboo_sl said:
Ohio St made it 9 weeks into their schedule before they played a ranked team...and don't have another on their schedule. The combined record of all of their opponents leading up to the Michigan St game was 36-35. Their schedule is barely better than Marshalls.

Auburn has played teams with a combined record of 56-29, including games against 4 ranked teams(#3, #4, #15, #20) up to this point(and 2 more on their schedule, #5, #20).

I'd easily rank a 2 loss Auburn above a 1-loss Ohio St
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I 100% agree with you even past my previous rant about Auburn. I still stand firm that Auburn should be 13-15 in rankings and with that in mind, Ohio State should be in the top teens or low 20s.

I would easily say Auburn > Ohio St. I hate Ohio St. in football and basketball, such overrated but they always get national attention, and for what? They have not been relevant in years, especially at basketball!
 
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Ohio State was getting their shit pushed in by a team with an inept offense that consists of 50 wide receiver screen plays and a staggering 16 yards rushing at PSU. If it wasn't for the gift int that lead to a touchdown and a extra 5 seconds on the play clock for a field goal, OSU would have lost 17-7. To think they can even sniff a high quality win at say Oregon or Alabama is absurd. Auburn I can see it being a good game. Not a one sided affair.

Then again Ohio can always schedule a typical non-confrence slate vs Southern Miss, UAB, South Alabama and UT Martin and have not lost to VT and be ranked #1.

I know teams are givin an extra hand in rankings based on the name of the school, but seriously looking at Mississippi State's slate is laughable. LSU and Auburn are up there, but let's not pretend LSU hasn't played like shit and Auburn has more luck than any other team in America. Even their schedule is a circle jerk of shit non-conference teams lumped in with only LSU as the only true power team they've beat.

Rankings based on conference "name power" are bullshit. Look at the ooc, and then look at inter-confrence power houses and base ranks off that shit and expand the play offs to eight teams.



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Auburn has played teams with a combined record of 56-29, including games against 4 ranked teams(#3, #4, #15, #20) up to this point(and 2 more on their schedule, #5, #20).
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Don't throw rankings in there saying they played 3,4,15,20 etc for Auburn. Include the shit teams also and how teams are rankednow.
Wins vs Ranked Teams

This is who they have beaten who are ranked.

#12 Old Miss ( has won vs 1 Ranked team: Alabama) Wow look at this shit. ( Stacked wins vs Bosie State, Vanderbuilt, LA Fafayette, Memphis, Texas A/M, Presbyterian and Tennessee)

#13 Kansas State ( They ass stomped Texas. Anyone who does that deserves all rewards and life time supply of pussy and free rankings boost. Yet also got wrecked by TCU 41-20)

#20 LSU ( Wins @ #22 Wisconsin, Florida? and Ole Miss)
 
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The B1G is pretty dreadful, anybody who is an honest fan of the schools playing in it know that. But for Auburn to only fall that far in the rankings is pretty pathetic, and anyone arguing against that is showing some obvious SEC bias.
 
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ya b10/12/14 whatever is sucking. MSU was holding on to being respectful with a good 3 1/2 quarter battle with Oregon at the start of the season, but shit the bed losing to Ohio. Now it's just one large turd.
 
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Rais_sl said:
Ohio State was getting their shit pushed in by a team with an inept offense that consists of 50 wide receiver screen plays and a staggering 16 yards rushing at PSU. If it wasn't for the gift int that lead to a touchdown and a extra 5 seconds on the play clock for a field goal, OSU would have lost 17-7. To think they can even sniff a high quality win at say Oregon or Alabama is absurd. Auburn I can see it being a good game. Not a one sided affair.

Then again Ohio can always schedule a typical non-confrence slate vs Southern Miss, UAB, South Alabama and UT Martin and have not lost to VT and be ranked #1.

I know teams are givin an extra hand in rankings based on the name of the school, but seriously looking at Mississippi State's slate is laughable. LSU and Auburn are up there, but let's not pretend LSU hasn't played like shit and Auburn has more luck than any other team in America. Even their schedule is a circle jerk of shit non-conference teams lumped in with only LSU as the only true power team they've beat.

Rankings based on conference "name power" are bullshit. Look at the ooc, and then look at inter-confrence power houses and base ranks off that shit and expand the play offs to eight teams.





Don't throw rankings in there saying they played 3,4,15,20 etc for Auburn. Include the shit teams also and how teams are rankednow.
Wins vs Ranked Teams

This is who they have beaten who are ranked.

#12 Old Miss ( has won vs 1 Ranked team: Alabama) Wow look at this shit. ( Stacked wins vs Bosie State, Vanderbuilt, LA Fafayette, Memphis, Texas A/M, Presbyterian and Tennessee)

#13 Kansas State ( They ass stomped Texas. Anyone who does that deserves all rewards and life time supply of pussy and free rankings boost. Yet also got wrecked by TCU 41-20)

#20 LSU ( Wins @ #22 Wisconsin, Florida? and Ole Miss)
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This guy gets it, thank god!

Basically, the whole ranking thing of college football is stupid and corrupt as hell. The SEC has the highest rankings because they are only playing people inside their own over-ranked "bubble" sorta-speak. They (SEC) play overall some of the least amount of OOC games out of any conference. So when you're playing over-ranked teams in your own bubble you are basically always going to continue the never-ending trend of constantly being ranked. They really need to expand on legitimate OOC games, but that would affect the massive amounts of $$$ involved in the sport.
 
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The SEC playes non con games against the likes of Kstate, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Florida St, Clemson, Louisville, etc. About the only SEC teams that didn't play a top-tier non con games this year were Mizzou and A&M because their schedules are all fucked up for a few years from changing conferences.

Sure the SEC plays their share of Sam Houston States and Alabama A&M like everyone else does but most teams sick their neck of in a big way at least once a year in the non con, which is more than you can say for most teams.
 
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joeboo_sl said:
The SEC playes non con games against the likes of Kstate, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Florida St, Clemson, Louisville, etc. About the only SEC teams that didn't play a top-tier non con games this year were Mizzou and A&M because their schedules are all fucked up for a few years from changing conferences.

Sure the SEC plays their share of Sam Houston States and Alabama A&M like everyone else does but most teams sick their neck of in a big way at least once a year in the non con, which is more than you can say for most teams.
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Bama always picks a big game(or who we think will be good) week 1 while people are playing no hope state. Exactly the thing you need to do to be sharp and get nudged up a rank or two at the end.
 
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A lot of non-con games have to be scheduled so far out that it's hard to know if a team will be good or not 7 years down the road when you actually play the game. I know when Kstate scheduled Auburn 6 or 7 years ago, they certainly didn't expect to be playing a team that had been in the national championship game twice in 4 years, Auburn was down a bit when that game was originally set up (and Bill Snyder wanted out of it bad).

Thats why A&M & Missouris scheduled are all fubar for a couple years here, you basically can't get anyone decent on only a year or two notice, big programs book games out 5-10 years in advance. I know A&M just announced a series with Notre Dame for like 2021 or some crap(I think on the dates that Texas backed out of with ND)
 
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It's very hard for top tier tems to get a team to come into their home stadium for a game, even with a huge payout. That's part of the reaon LSU has gone to playing the opener against ranked teams at a neutral site in Houston and Dallas etc..

Even a home/home gets a lot of resistance because the fans girpe about having to travel to a good program in their stadium.
 
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Easier to not really play anyone and bitch about bias than to actually nut up and play some competition.
 
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Kedwyn_sl said:
Easier to not really play anyone and bitch about bias than to actually nut up and play some competition.
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In 2013, Louisville tried to schedule games vs. Texas A&M (Johnny football era) and Alabama. They wanted to help prove their SOS. Cannot say a lot of teams do this, or atleast that we know about, but there are some... A lot of it has to do with money, pure and simple, and others don't want to potentially tarnish their "tough conference" reputation if they lose.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/...-season-opener

http://www.cardchronicle.com/2013/4/...-and-texas-a-m
 
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Proud to say USC has never scheduled a DII or whatever the fuck it's called as best as I can remember. Hawaii isn't far removed from that but still, it's not Alabama A&T.
 
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There's a lot of fan speculation that we may see a Mizzou-Nebraska series played at Arrowhead(Chiefs Stadium) in KC at some point in the near future, and on a regular basis. The Nebraska campus is only about 3.5 hours from KC, and Mizzou is only 2 hours away so its a reasonable central point for a neutral site game for both teams, and Nebraska does a lot of recruiting in the KC metro. I'd love to see it.

Nobody wants to play tough road games in their non-conference schedule, but I'd love to see more neutral site big matchups like Jerrydome has seen in recent years.
 
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joeboo_sl said:
There's a lot of fan speculation that we may see a Mizzou-Nebraska series played at Arrowhead(Chiefs Stadium) in KC at some point in the near future, and on a regular basis. The Nebraska campus is only about 3.5 hours from KC, and Mizzou is only 2 hours away so its a reasonable central point for a neutral site game for both teams, and Nebraska does a lot of recruiting in the KC metro. I'd love to see it.

Nobody wants to play tough road games in their non-conference schedule, but I'd love to see more neutral site big matchups like Jerrydome has seen in recent years.
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It's wildly unpopular with LSU fans, at least the big money backers in the TAF. At first it was good and got lots of exposure. But now after several years the backers have told the AD to cut down on it since we've done it now 4 years in a row or something similar.
 
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