College Football 2014-15

Gilgamel

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Lol we will be solid ruling the east don't you worry.
We're coming for that reptilian ass Regime. I stand by that statement.

Assuming we don't lose Butch to Michigan or some equally morbid thing. It's hard not to fear the worst at this point.

But assuming our coach isn't struck by a meteor and/or stolen by his home state school where he can make as much money and win approximately 400% easier, then I stand by my statement.
 

Regime

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Our offense going to take it to 11 straight wins son.


Be nice if Tenn Could step it up.
 

Joeboo

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I can't decide who I want to get fucked more, Ohio St or the Big 12. I really, really dislike Ohio St, but I'd really like to see the entire B12 conference get the shaft.

So torn

Also, can't wait to see Alabama or Oregon wrong-hole Florida St in the 1st round of the playoffs...
 

Kellim

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Who has Ohio State even beaten this year? And with a third string QB? Gotta go with Baylor or TCU. Like Leadaas said though, OSU is prolly gonna win their next 30 regular season games.
I don't even know what the fuck to say to this.

You're asking who Ohio State beat this year, then shit on them for curb stomping Wisconsin with their third string QB?
 

Joeboo

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Who ya got for your 4th playoff spot?

Team A:
3-0 against top 25 teams(2 home 1 road)
1 loss to unranked team(on road)
Strength of Schedule = 114

Team B:
3-0 against top 25 teams(2 on the road, 1 neutral site)
1 loss to unranked team (at home)
Strength of Schedule = 51

Team C:
4-1 against top 25 teams(3-0 at home, 1-1 on road)
Strength of Schedule = 92

All ranked wins were against teams ranked as of the time the game was played

A=Baylor
B= Ohio St
C=TCU
 

Gilgamel

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I don't even know what the fuck to say to this.

You're asking who Ohio State beat this year, then shit on them for curb stomping Wisconsin with their third string QB?
I shit on them precisely because they continue lording over their shitstain of a conference with a third string QB. I know they are good, Meyer is a good coach even though I think he's an awful human being, but when your conference sucks dick and you lose your only non-confernece game worth a shit you don't deserve it over a team that plays in a real conference. Meyer took over a .500 team and has lost like one conference game in three years. Give me a break.
 

Kellim

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The whole ranked at the time the game was played is what's problematic.

Given how incestuous college football is, preseason rankings have far too much import.

They need to have the top 32 college programs be a de facto minor league for the NFL.

Hell, make it more interesting and have relegation/promotion for the bottom 3 teams with the remaining also rans.
 
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Who ya got for your 4th playoff spot?

Team A:
3-0 against top 25 teams(2 home 1 road)
1 loss to unranked team(on road)
Strength of Schedule = 114

Team B:
3-0 against top 25 teams(2 on the road, 1 neutral site)
1 loss to unranked team (at home)
Strength of Schedule = 51

Team C:
4-1 against top 25 teams(3-0 at home, 1-1 on road)
Strength of Schedule = 92

All ranked wins were against teams ranked as of the time the game was played

A=Baylor
B= Ohio St
C=TCU
Simply out of curiosity's sake here, did any of these purely hypothetical teams perhaps play one another at some point? I mean, I wouldn't blame you for not considering it. What a wacky situation that would be. Ignoring head to head results and all, preposterous.
 

Joeboo

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The whole ranked at the time the game was played is what's problematic.

Given how incestuous college football is, preseason rankings have far too much import.

They need to have the top 32 college programs be a de facto minor league for the NFL.

Hell, make it more interesting and have relegation/promotion for the bottom 3 teams with the remaining also rans.
Problem is, both ways have their flaws, I just chose 1 and went with it(since it was the easier one to find, ESPN lists season results with rankings as of the day played next to the team names)

Teams do start out way overrated (South Carolina immediately comes to mind)

But some teams take injuries that effect them greatly, and when you played them, matters.

Ole Miss with Treadwell and a healthy Bo Wallace early in the year was a MUCH harder opponent than Ole Miss late in the year once injuries had set in. You tell me a team beat Ole Miss, and I'm much more impressed if they beat the top-5 ranked, fully healthy Ole Miss, than the banged up Ole Miss that lost 3 of their last 4 conference game and stumbled to the finish line. If you played them in October, they were tough as hell, if you played them in November, it was a much easier game.
 

Joeboo

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I've officially made up my mind(not that anyone cares)

Ohio St and Fla St deserve to be in on the lone fact that they had to play 1 more game against ranked teams than Baylor and TCU did. Baylor and TCU got an extra bye week during the season so as not to be idle this weekend.

What did Alabama, Oregon, Florida ST and Ohio St get? A 13th game against a damn good team, and not at home either, at a neutral site. Baylor and TCU sat at home and played.

Not even remotely even

Screw the B12 and their pansy-ass schedule
 

Kellim

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Gilg, I get that the Big Ten, by and large, is pathetic, and that Ohio State hasn't done themselves any favors in people's minds by shitting the bed in almost every big game they've played in what, the past ten years.

That having been said, at this point, people just pile on the Buckeyes based on players who aren't on the team. This Buckeyes team has years of solid recruiting with a coach who won at Bowling Green, Utah, and Florida. I don't think that it's possible that anyone could say that Ohio State is undeserving of one of the four playoff spots.

Problem is, I don't think anyone can say that TCU and Baylor aren't deserving as well and that's a huge fucking problem when there's only four slots and six teams are completely deserving (no one is going to say that Saban, Nike, and the Rapist aren't worthy, right?).

Joe, what you say is absolutely right about context mattering. I'll spin context mattering in the Buckeyes favor. They had a (redshirt) freshman QB starting his second game behind and offensive line with 4 new starters and the returning starter having switched positions minus their top rusher and top receiver from the year before. Even with all that, it was a *BAD* loss, but is there anyone who thinks that if they play that game every day for the next month, that Ohio State loses even a single matchup against VT?

The only thing that can be said with any degree of certainty is that when the semis are announced tomorrow, two teams will have every right to be seriously pissed off.

It needs to be 8 teams, one slot for each Power 5 champ (and no co-champ bullshit like the Big 12 pulled to help TCU), one for the top non Power 5 conference champ, and the top 2 who don't fall into the previous categories. Unless you wanted it to be 16 teams which would be even better.
 

Joeboo

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An 8 team playoff with your scenario, or just a straight 5 power conf champs + 3 wildcards instantly becomes a defacto 13-team playoff, because there are 10 teams playing in those 5 conference championship games.

Today would have been the first day for the "playoffs" to start, round 1 was Bama/Mizzou, Oregon/Arizona, FlaSt/GT, OhioSt/Wisc and should have been Baylor/Kstate(probably south/north champs in B12).

Those 10 teams get narrowed down to 5 instantly, Bama, Oregon, Florida St, Ohio St, Baylor. Then you have 3 wildcards. Throw in TCU, Michigan St, and Miss St(for example) and off we go!

I guess the only downside would be that it would seem like those 3 wildcard teams would seemingly have a 1st round bye in the playoffs, which doesnt seem fair, but theres also no guarantee that they are even in until the results of those conference championship games are in. If chaos ensues and somehow Bama and Oregon and Florida state lost and didn't get automatic berths, you better believe those would be the 3 wildcards, which would be weird, but appropriate.

But the further you expand the playoff, and start giving automatic berths to conference champs, you run the risk of something crazy happening and some 20th ranked team upsetting a highly ranked team and then getting hot and running the table. You end up with a national champion who is something like 12-4(8-4 entering conf championship, win that, then win 3 playoff games)

I guess that's no worse than the NCAA basketball tournament and a #6 seed winning the whole thing or something. We're used to it in basketball, we could get used to it in football.
 

Kaines

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As a Baylor alum, here is what I want to see happen tomorrow. Playoff teams: 1) Alabama 2) Oregon 3) FSU 4) Ohio St. That would force the Big 12 to declare a #OneTrueChampion to play in the Cotton Bowl, and God help that spineless liar Bowlsby if they nominate TCU over Baylor. That would send TCU to a non-Jan 1 bowl and I would laugh my ass off.
 

WhatsAmmataU_sl

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I want Ohio State to get in just to see the drubbing that Alabama would put on them. Push that bowl record to 0-11 and hold it over Dumar for another year.

If you're a fan of pushing it to 8 teams, this is pretty ideal. There are gonna be 2 pissed off fan bases and one pissed off conference no matter what.
 

LiquidDeath

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Told ya Spring. I am really ready for a change in Norman. The D and O in the 4th quarter couldn't have been more pathetic.
I'm ready for change, but not at the HC level.

Who is OU going to get that is better than Stoops? I think he still has it in him. It isn't his fault that our best receiver, best running back (twice), and starting QB are all injured at this point. What OU needs is to get someone in that can coach the 3-4 defense (not Mike Stoops), someone who can call plays and teach a run/pass QB (not Heuple), and someone who can recruit linebackers with talent. Those are all coordinator issues, not HC issues.
 

Intrinsic

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I shit on them precisely because they continue lording over their shitstain of a conference with a third string QB. I know they are good, Meyer is a good coach even though I think he's an awful human being, but when your conference sucks dick and you lose your only non-confernece game worth a shit you don't deserve it over a team that plays in a real conference. Meyer took over a .500 team and has lost like one conference game in three years. Give me a break.
I shit on them because of their fan base (people like Dumar), but this guy is turning it around for me. And he hasn't even typed tOSU once, that's the real deal breaker.