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I would put in the new SSD in (slot 2 or 3 is irrelevant, because write speeds are always slower), copy your system drive, and then swap drives.
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Under magician, I select the bad ssd (booted on the old windows 10 500gb) and click data migration, states "Only the source drive on which the o/s is installed can be replicated"....

If I can't straight clone it, wut do. Thought point of failed ssd is it locks down into read only, so hopefully some way to save some docs I had on desktop and even better my chrome tabs. Spacing what I had that was any important, but had a few text documents with important notes
 
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Lanx Lanx Noodleface Noodleface

Under magician, I select the bad ssd (booted on the old windows 10 500gb) and click data migration, states "Only the source drive on which the o/s is installed can be replicated"....

If I can't straight clone it, wut do. Thought point of failed ssd is it locks down into read only, so hopefully some way to save some docs I had on desktop and even better my chrome tabs. Spacing what I had that was any important, but had a few text documents with important notes
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can you boot into your old 980 at all then? if not just download diskgenius to your old working win10

DiskGenius: Data Recovery, Partition Manager, Backup & Disk Utilities

DiskGenius provides an all-in-one solution for data recovery, disk partition management and backup & restore for Windows PCs, Servers and workstations.
www.diskgenius.com www.diskgenius.com

and clone old 980 to new drive
 
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can you boot into your old 980 at all then? if not just download diskgenius to your old working win10

DiskGenius: Data Recovery, Partition Manager, Backup & Disk Utilities

DiskGenius provides an all-in-one solution for data recovery, disk partition management and backup & restore for Windows PCs, Servers and workstations.
www.diskgenius.com www.diskgenius.com

and clone old 980 to new drive
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In some ways I'm not sure I want to clone, I read it can copy over bad sectors, all I really really want is to get it viewable so I can grab a handfull of files. Tried one free recovery tool that was like 1 file and wasn't very diciperable, but at least it was able to see the drive when it otherwise doesnt populate in windows file explorer.
 
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Sludig said:
In some ways I'm not sure I want to clone, I read it can copy over bad sectors, all I really really want is to get it viewable so I can grab a handfull of files. Tried one free recovery tool that was like 1 file and wasn't very diciperable, but at least it was able to see the drive when it otherwise doesnt populate in windows file explorer.
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If you only want to grab some files and the source drive is still readable, I'd create an USB stick with a live bootable Linux and copy the files to another USB stick. Something like the Ubuntu Live USB, or Linux Mint.

You can do something similar for Windows by creating a Windows PE boot stick.
 
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So I've had nothing but issues for days. Hard to keep track of everything. Basically some of the issues change by the minute.

Went to clean install on the new ssd, went to reboot during the process and computer tried using the other drives or something. I went in, deleted all the info/particians on the ssd, removed old drives, and started fresh.

Seemed to go ok. Upon first boot shitty Armory crate started trying to install but hung or maybe I hit cancel then it hung. Shitty geforce experience like program for my Z690 mobo. When I first built the computer, it and the shitty aorus engine for my gigabyte 3080 both were kinda known peices of shit that didnt work.

To remove it, apparently need a full blown uninstaller from asus. Run that, and over the next few days during restarts sometimes it would stay gone, and then come back.

I broke down and had said fuck it and said ok to onedrive all the things sync etc. Next thing I know it's trying to tell me no space because literally everything I was saving to my computer was going there, to the point that even the filepath for most things were onedrive/desktop etc. So that was kinda aids and I'm not paying for their storage and spying.

I'm kinda in the weeds of what I recall, but essentially I was having some random soft locks to reboot or blue screens periodically. Sometimes in the middle of trying to talk about the issue in discord watching a youtube tech video, transfering files. And even had it reboot just sitting idle at desktop. Tarkov was being a bitch though that sounds like a known issue on their end that fresh installs fail and restart at 30g an attempt. Work around was to cancel after DL before it checksums, then unzip the DL file into another folder and designate it as a seperate file path to the launcher and it then checksums it just fine. But game seemed to further increase my odds of blue screens, or the game itself was crashing to desktop (Unsure if my comp, or current issue with arena I dont normally play) Discord would like crash out and try to reload but be just a black screen.

Troubleshooting wise, updated mobo, graphics up to date, windows to date, I even unplugged my old drives in case they somehow were causing an interference. I'm about to run bluescreenview to try and see what it says about the actual blue screens.

I kinda debated taking drives out and seeing if my old win 10 drive functions fine, to maybe point to the new SSD being bad? Not sure how to test for power supply being bad, I think I even replaced it once already, can't recall for sure, it's plugged into a pretty old UPS as well so I thought about running it direct to another surge protector try to introduce variables I can test.

Knock on wood, shockingly I was able to type this out and have discord running and not crash out as of yet this evening.
 
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I had many more BSOD than this.
 
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So somehow or another, bios had reset to not XMP profile on memory so was running slow and low voltage. Not sure if the issue, we'll see.

Edit, nope still blue screen. Got an error on the dunno saying IRQL not less than or equal.

Which is a flashback, i know i had that error when i was dealing with crashing when it was first built or maybe it was after the first year when the ram seemingly went bad and i replaced.

Seems kinda sussy to bed to be on my 3rd set of ram in 4-5 years



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I'm kinda in the weeds of what I recall, but essentially I was having some random soft locks to reboot or blue screens periodically. Sometimes in the middle of trying to talk about the issue in discord watching a youtube tech video, transfering files. And even had it reboot just sitting idle at desktop. Tarkov was being a bitch though that sounds like a known issue on their end that fresh installs fail and restart at 30g an attempt. Work around was to cancel after DL before it checksums, then unzip the DL file into another folder and designate it as a seperate file path to the launcher and it then checksums it just fine. But game seemed to further increase my odds of blue screens, or the game itself was crashing to desktop (Unsure if my comp, or current issue with arena I dont normally play) Discord would like crash out and try to reload but be just a black screen.

Troubleshooting wise, updated mobo, graphics up to date, windows to date, I even unplugged my old drives in case they somehow were causing an interference. I'm about to run bluescreenview to try and see what it says about the actual blue screens.

I kinda debated taking drives out and seeing if my old win 10 drive functions fine, to maybe point to the new SSD being bad? Not sure how to test for power supply being bad, I think I even replaced it once already, can't recall for sure, it's plugged into a pretty old UPS as well so I thought about running it direct to another surge protector try to introduce variables I can test.

Knock on wood, shockingly I was able to type this out and have discord running and not crash out as of yet this evening.
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There is an acknowledged problem with the 13th and 14th gen Intel Core CPUs that will cause issues like this but, I had issues on an older generation. Never overclocked it, only ran it at the advertised speed. Never any heavy gaming or ran any application that pushed the system. Never any heat issues.

It started with browser tabs crashing at random times. Several different browsers but the problem would show up again. Then random issues with explorer crashing, displays randomly resetting. Blue screens. Sometimes it got to the point Windows could not boot and required repair. At one point it seemed like the SSD had to be the issue but it always checked out and a new one did not fix it. I messed with every driver, setting and piece of hardware that was replaceable, reinstalled Windows, etc. It has been through an upgrade from 10 to 11 and a fresh reinstall of both to narrow down the issue. The frequency of issues increased to the point the computer was unusable. The most frustrating part was some changes seemed to make it work fine for a while.

Turning off every possible method of "boosting" the clock speed fixed it. It is possible the motherboard or maybe even the power supply is the issue but I would bet on the CPU from the other problems Intel has had. I am not willing to dump more time or money into it to find out. I did have years of trouble free operation from it. It is working with all of its original hardware just locked at the lowest advertised clock speed.
 
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If your memory is unstable you can decrease frequency, increase timings and/or voltage. Higher voltage means more heat, and maybe frying your RAM. Increased timings means less performance.

If you have an XMP or EXPO profile for your DIMM and bought it specifically for that, then most likely your RAM went bad. Since RAM is relatively cheap these days I would just replace it, or check if you can replace it through warranty.
 
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Not necessarily: DHCP gives out IP addresses to clients on your network, DNS resolves names to IP addresses. While both are needed for HTTPS to work, once the communication between the computers starts they are no longer involved.


My first instinct tells me this is a Comcast issue, and that they are routing your Internet traffic through a transparent proxy that fucks things up. Comcast is known to intercept at least DNS traffic, even if you set up different DNS servers.

This would be debuggable with an SSL tool, e.g. OpenSSL's s_client and comparing the output to someone else's ISP.

You can also test this yourself: Select a VPN provider (any reputable should do), set it up on a client and connect to the VPN service there. This should cut Comcast traffic filtering out of the loop, and prove that the clients are not the issue: Try to open the sites that didn't work before through the VPN and compare.

As a first step you can check how the traffic is generally routed with tracert on the command line: tracert www.imgur.com
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So to follow up on this,

I said that it seemed to clear up for the most part, but I'm learning that's not entirely true. There are still some issues here and there, and imgur in particular has constantly had an error message about too much traffic or something, but when I log into my computer at home (from work) at the same exact time, the home computer connects immediately while my work computer still gives that error.

So I did what you said and installed my VPN (and just found out they raised the fucking price by a LOT this last year, PIA in case anyone has them) here at work, and everything works perfectly. According to what you said that points to it being Comcast filtering stuff. How certain is that? The VPN wouldn't cause it to bypass anything on the server then? If that's the case, is my only recourse at this point to call them and go through the (I'm sure massive) hassle of trying to convince some idiot there that I have a problem and that it is their fault?
 
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How certain is that? The VPN wouldn't cause it to bypass anything on the server then? If that's the case, is my only recourse at this point to call them and go through the (I'm sure massive) hassle of trying to convince some idiot there that I have a problem and that it is their fault?
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If it works with the VPN and not directly, it is most likely Comcast's fault. It also could be imgur blocking some IP ranges, probably to reduce traffic.

To put it the other way around: The other sites suddenly starting to work is probably the result of someone else going through the massive hassle to convince someone at Comcast that there is a problem, and it's Comcast's fault.

Godspeed.
 
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Ordered trident z 32gb (2x16) to replace, but so far doing good back to default settings not xmp but with voltage set to 1.35

torn return it before it arrives or same chips same timings, debating trying to run 64gb since tarkov is a mess and o do like a million browser tabs of things i need to get back to.
 
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o do like a million browser tabs of things i need to get back to.
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I'm guilty of this as well. I started using a power move lately (even though both my home and work computers now have 64 GB). I'm assuming it works on other browsers besides Vivaldi, but ymmv. If you right click on one of the tabs, there is an option to hibernate all background tabs. Instantly reduces CPU and memory usage by a lot, based on how many you have open of course, but they are still there for the day months from now when you decide to see what they were and just close them instead of doing anything useful. Ask me how I know!
 
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Sludig said:
o do like a million browser tabs of things i need to get back to.
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Void said:
I'm guilty of this as well.
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Same. If you can execute a tiny bit of discipline, this extension works wonders. Lets you sort and group tabs by HTML reference in a vertical list without keeping them loaded in memory. Easy bulk loading/unloading. (Firefox only)

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Download Tab Stash for Firefox. Easily save and organize batches of tabs as bookmarks. Clear your tabs, clear your mind. Only for Firefox.
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