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You're just seeing a picture of me? I've been in a bunch of interviews and shows online for years now that I've posted on here. Sorry to disappoint.
dechire
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Ukerric
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If you want an absolute flawless and aesthetically pleasing, that looks like it's handcrafted, yea, it's going to be complicated.
If you can tolerate a couple weird spots... well, look at the procedural towns generated in Minecraft. That's basically one dev working on it for a couple weeks, and you have very nice towns, with town centers, farms, roads, etc. Most of their problems arise from the fact that maps are generated on the fly in 16x16 chunks as you approach, and you get chunk errors. If you generate all in one pass, you have a lot less errors.
He slipped up in the video saying the kickstarter was just to see if the game had any interest. So. yah, all the goals would have been in the game anyway.
It really doesn't make sense to give a piece of the pie away when you can get free money and keep everything.
The game would have been made with or without the kickstarter backing.
I don't he slipped up. He's said that if it was successful it proves that it has a viable game and he could take that to other VCs as proof that there is an audience. I think he's been very upfront with that. The kickstarter gets him:
Proof of Acceptance
Money
Ramp up community development
Create Buzz
We get a way to buy in early access and other useless gadgets.
Proof of Acceptance
Money
Ramp up community development
Create Buzz
We get a way to buy in early access and other useless gadgets.
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KS Update
The march to the $1.3 million stretch goal -- Mounts and Caravans -- continues!
To keep up the excitement, today we are announcing two new stretch goals. If we are fortunate enough and you guys are willing to support up -- here is what we'd love to build next!
- At 14,500 backers, we're giving a Pack-Pig to all our Kickstarter backers!
Every player who supports our Kickstarter campaign will get a guinecean pack pig, a caravan animal that can move materials around the World en masse. Drag stone from a quarry! Pull iron from your mine! Cart timber from your mill! The Pack Pig is a tireless beast of burden, ready and able to help you secure the materials you need to reinforce your castle or stronghold.
- At $1.4 million: expand "God's Reach" faction rules and "Artifact and Relics" system!
You guys already know about God's Reach, but what are Artifacts and Relics, and how do they tie into both the Campaigns and the Eternal Kingdoms? For these answers and more, read on!
As always, THANK YOU for your support and for being a part of the Crowfall community!
Relics
The march to the $1.3 million stretch goal -- Mounts and Caravans -- continues!
To keep up the excitement, today we are announcing two new stretch goals. If we are fortunate enough and you guys are willing to support up -- here is what we'd love to build next!
- At 14,500 backers, we're giving a Pack-Pig to all our Kickstarter backers!
Every player who supports our Kickstarter campaign will get a guinecean pack pig, a caravan animal that can move materials around the World en masse. Drag stone from a quarry! Pull iron from your mine! Cart timber from your mill! The Pack Pig is a tireless beast of burden, ready and able to help you secure the materials you need to reinforce your castle or stronghold.
- At $1.4 million: expand "God's Reach" faction rules and "Artifact and Relics" system!
You guys already know about God's Reach, but what are Artifacts and Relics, and how do they tie into both the Campaigns and the Eternal Kingdoms? For these answers and more, read on!
As always, THANK YOU for your support and for being a part of the Crowfall community!
Relics
Relics & Artifacts FAQ
Do I get anything for participating in Campaigns?
Yes. First of all, Campaigns are the primary method of collecting materials and rare resources for use in the Eternal Kingdoms.
Second, Campaigns are also the source of Artifacts and Relics. These are items players can earn by participating in Campaigns.
What do Artifacts and Relics do?
When displayed in the proper building in your Eternal Kingdom, Artifacts and Relics will grant you blessings, which represent the influence of ancient magic and the divine favor of the Gods. These blessings work in much the same manner as passive training: they are "always on" your character, regardless of which Kingdom or Campaign you travel to.
What is a Blessing?
Blessings are passive spell effects (utility buffs) that players can select based on the Artifacts and Relics they have access too. Blessings are minor effects, like "increases archery training speed by 1%" or "increases wood harvesting speed by 5%".
There is a maximum amount of blessings a player can have active on a character at one time (current estimate is 3 per character). Collecting more Artifacts and Relics on your will give you more blessings to choose from -- but since all characters are limited to only 3 active blessings at any time, having more of them only gives you more variety and choice, not more power.
What is the difference between an Artifact and a Relic?
Artifacts are typically guild rewards. Relics are typically player rewards.
Artifacts are "World" rewards. These can only be gained by winning Campaigns. Artifacts are meaningful trophies (like the World Cup) that can be displayed in your Eternal Kingdom, that confer their blessings on all the players who own land in that Kingdom.
An example of an Artifact might be "the Anvil of Kane", which (when placed, for example, inside a Reliquary in a Mountain Citadel) offers the "Strength of the Crescent Moon" blessing to all the players on this World.
Relics are "Player and City" rewards. Relics offer similar blessings, but can only be utilized by a smaller number of players - they can be placed inside of the buildings in the cities or villages of your Eternal Kingdom. Relics can be collected in Campaigns or crafted using rare reagents.
An example of a Relic might be "the Blade of Taerious", which (once placed in a Chaos Temple) offers the "Gaes of Speed" blessing to the players who own land in and around a (player-built) village in your Kingdom.
How do I use my Artifact, or Relic?
To be activated, an Artifact or Relic must be placed on display in an appropriate building in the guild or player's Eternal Kingdom. Different buildings house different types of Artifacts and Relics, for example:
Barracks can only display weapons of legend.
Temples can only house religious items.
Reliquaries can house many different type of artifacts and relics, but take up a lot of real estate and require a lot of maintenance/property tax.
Each Artifact or Relic must be placed in a building for the blessing to be active. The blessing on these items are time-limited; when the blessing runs out, the Artifact or Relic must be recharged.
Is there any other way to get these outside of Campaigns? Yes.
These are items, and can be freely traded between players.
Do I get anything for participating in Campaigns?
Yes. First of all, Campaigns are the primary method of collecting materials and rare resources for use in the Eternal Kingdoms.
Second, Campaigns are also the source of Artifacts and Relics. These are items players can earn by participating in Campaigns.
What do Artifacts and Relics do?
When displayed in the proper building in your Eternal Kingdom, Artifacts and Relics will grant you blessings, which represent the influence of ancient magic and the divine favor of the Gods. These blessings work in much the same manner as passive training: they are "always on" your character, regardless of which Kingdom or Campaign you travel to.
What is a Blessing?
Blessings are passive spell effects (utility buffs) that players can select based on the Artifacts and Relics they have access too. Blessings are minor effects, like "increases archery training speed by 1%" or "increases wood harvesting speed by 5%".
There is a maximum amount of blessings a player can have active on a character at one time (current estimate is 3 per character). Collecting more Artifacts and Relics on your will give you more blessings to choose from -- but since all characters are limited to only 3 active blessings at any time, having more of them only gives you more variety and choice, not more power.
What is the difference between an Artifact and a Relic?
Artifacts are typically guild rewards. Relics are typically player rewards.
Artifacts are "World" rewards. These can only be gained by winning Campaigns. Artifacts are meaningful trophies (like the World Cup) that can be displayed in your Eternal Kingdom, that confer their blessings on all the players who own land in that Kingdom.
An example of an Artifact might be "the Anvil of Kane", which (when placed, for example, inside a Reliquary in a Mountain Citadel) offers the "Strength of the Crescent Moon" blessing to all the players on this World.
Relics are "Player and City" rewards. Relics offer similar blessings, but can only be utilized by a smaller number of players - they can be placed inside of the buildings in the cities or villages of your Eternal Kingdom. Relics can be collected in Campaigns or crafted using rare reagents.
An example of a Relic might be "the Blade of Taerious", which (once placed in a Chaos Temple) offers the "Gaes of Speed" blessing to the players who own land in and around a (player-built) village in your Kingdom.
How do I use my Artifact, or Relic?
To be activated, an Artifact or Relic must be placed on display in an appropriate building in the guild or player's Eternal Kingdom. Different buildings house different types of Artifacts and Relics, for example:
Barracks can only display weapons of legend.
Temples can only house religious items.
Reliquaries can house many different type of artifacts and relics, but take up a lot of real estate and require a lot of maintenance/property tax.
Each Artifact or Relic must be placed in a building for the blessing to be active. The blessing on these items are time-limited; when the blessing runs out, the Artifact or Relic must be recharged.
Is there any other way to get these outside of Campaigns? Yes.
These are items, and can be freely traded between players.
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They have money already to fund much of the game. The kickstarter is extra money and helps identify supporters who are willing to put their money where their mouth is.
One thing about any venture, more money is not a bad thing. I do think the stretch goals are a joke though. They are listing them as if they were not going to be in the game. Kinda disingenuous but whatever, I am still going to enjoy the game.
One thing about any venture, more money is not a bad thing. I do think the stretch goals are a joke though. They are listing them as if they were not going to be in the game. Kinda disingenuous but whatever, I am still going to enjoy the game.
Seriously though, what could they have added? Anything else would be superduper feature creep.
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This isn't true. The Kickstarter will hopefully allow them to raise more funds to make the game but in no way do they have enough to make it right now. They have been very upfront about this and haven't tried to hide it.
There isn't much of a game there honestly. There is no PVE, no hand made content. They just have to get their servers right and make sure they have enough artists. Everything else is building their world engine. That's an over simplification, but there is significantly less than a standard MMO.
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This is true, but given 2.7m from VC and the ~1.5m from their kickstarter I think they will be hard pressed to come up with a good implementation of their ideas without an additional source of funding.
I don't know that there is an unreached market of people who would feel compelled by what they currently have. PvPers are excited about CF just like they're going to be excited by the next dozen PvP-centric games.
I think they should hope to make a decent alpha/beta, get a lot of press from it and reach out to the the gaming community at large and figure out a way to monetize that by more than just early access / pre-orders.
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The previous week of Crowfall news:
Skill Training (active/passive disciplines etc)
Active and passive skill gains carrying over to new campaigns with a strong focus on one character per campaign. (Stated a few times by todd/thomas blair) Good or Bad for competitive pvp? Good for the game? Barrier of entry for new players in similar systems is quite harsh (eve as a prime example) in this play set. Primary difference is that CF meshes active and passive skill gain together.
Worries CF gets it wrong?
High turnover rate later if new players are significantly weaker than max skill point players?
Promotion class lock, good/bad? Should a Cash shop promotion class change option exist?
Artifacts and Relics
Relics apply small personal modifiers up to a certain cap to things like skill gain and harvesting rates. 5% harvesting speed could mean 5% attack speed or % increase to damage stackable up to a cap of 3 active. Foreseeable pvp implications?
Relics in other games (daoc/TESO etc) were capturable by enemies out in the pvp world. Instead these ones are not interactable in any fashion (that we know of). Do you see that as a problem? What's the point? This is basically an additional equipment slot at that point?
Min/Max implications of relics seem high here - league of legends has this kind of thing with their runes and masteries, do you feel like this angle of character customization will get overlooked or very simplified based on role? If that's the case why have relics at all? Ideas for diversity?
Artifacts - Guild wide boosts similar to relics in some fashion, possibly to a larger degree. Does this offer guilds too much power for winning a campaign? With the stronger just get stronger with this? An entire guild that reduces incoming damage by something as small as 10% means a whole lot enmasse. Potential problem area?
Mounts
Mounts are essential to large scale pvp games like this one, what's your take on their iteration of the mount system? Craftable, destructable, killable, stealable(player lootable) etc.
Centaurs unable to mount but will be able to skill into mount speed alternatives, being able to bypass all risk associated with owning a mount. Good or Bad? Possible "Centaur OP!?" moments?
Thanks for your time.
Vitality
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