Dark Souls 2
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Kriptini
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That would be why. It's equivalent to using Ludwig's Holy Blade in Bloodborne.
I think Dark Souls 2 is overall easier than Dark Souls 1, though. Dark Souls 1 has a lot of bosses and areas that are just ridiculously unfair unless you're playing "the right" build.
Not sure what game you're talking about, so I'll list the three that I know how they work for:
- Dark Souls 1: You can be invaded in any area if you aren't fighting a boss where you haven't killed the boss yet, with a few exceptions (such as Firelink Shrine and the Ceaseless Discharge area of Demon Ruins). A player has to be within your level range in order to invade you.
- Dark Souls 2: You can be invaded in any area if you aren't fighting a boss (with one exception that I won't spoil), even if you've already killed the boss there (after 30 minutes have passed), with a few exceptions (such as Majula and Rat King Covenant). A player has to be within your level rangeandsoul memory range in order to invade you. Also, you can burn a Human Effigy in a bonfire to turn off invasions and co-op in an area for 30 minutes.
- Bloodborne: If you ring the Resonant Bell to summon aid, someone who has rung the Sinister Bell will invade you. Not sure how it works with level matching, though.
I don't know how invading works in Demon's Souls. I haven't played it.
Angelwatch
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Demons Souls and Dark Souls had similar invasion rules. You had to be human to be invaded and a similar level range. Dark Souls 2 was different where you could get invaded even while dead. Despite that though, invasions in Dark Souls 2 is a bit more rare because of the soul memory system and a lack of the consumable you need to initiate an invasion.
Tuco
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I'll paste my opinion from the DS3 thread
Dark Souls 3
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Tuco_sl said:
I really enjoyed DS1 because of some of the game environments were amazing, but having gone through DS2 I can't think of a single one I really liked. Ash Lake is one of my favorite levels in any game ever, and nothing in DS2 even attempts to reach it.Tuco_sl said:
Ritley
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I mean I'm not abusing anything. Using probably the most common build (mix of melee stats) with gear that you get very early on in the game.
Dandain
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He's merely saying that depending on your gear choice you can chose your own difficulty to some degree. What you've chosen is a simpler/easier gear combination than other weapons or armor that are available. Souls games just let you play what you like, but you can turn up the difficulty.
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Not relying on blocks definitely change your perspective about the game. Also makes it easy as fuck when you replay it with basically any other class, cause once you learn how to dodge shit instead of just blocking through it, it means you basically know all the patterns and don't get hit by anything, more or less.
And yeah the weapon as difficulty, I think I read that in an interview. Basically it's how in the original DS you could if you wanted(and read guides) get the dragon sword into the lightning spear, with a good shield(say havel or black knight) and have a very easy time, or even get the Zweihander in the graveyard at the start. Or you could get a bandit knife and a parrying shield instead and try to do the game like that. All these options were available very early, but some were noticeably harder than the others. Some people gravitated towards certain weapons just because of style preferences, but some also did from an efficiency point of view. The Zweihander and especially the Dragon Sword were the easy mode for the game, they made it a lot more accessible than trying to use a rapier or a bandit knife or a mace or whatever the other options were, I don't remember particularily well. Similarily, using heavier armor and shields would in general make the game more accessible.
It was "make your own difficulty", if you wanted more, you could start as the lvl 1 class, you could use shorter/smaller weapons and you could use lighter armor. Magic goes there too for the easy mode, in both dark souls, picking a mage spec(mostly fire or arcane, the holy shit was often meh) would in general make the game pretty easy. Shit vanilla pyromancy in DS1 was so broken.
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I saw that "Twitch" managed to beat Ornstein and Smough. It's actually pretty impressive considering how hard they are but I still say it doesn't count since they switched the method of accepting control inputs.
Twitch Beats Dark Souls Hardest Boss
Twitch Beats Dark Souls Hardest Boss
I decided I didn't give this thing a fair shake last go around. I had picked it up through gamefly right after playing Bloodborne and just couldn't get into it what so ever and sent it back.
PSN has this on sale for $24 so I grabbed it to give it another go.
I do feel that Bloodborne is the better game but one thing I do enjoy from Souls are the classes and the variety of game play options that result. Even if some of them are cheese mode. That is certainly something I hope Bloodborne copies and refines and makes them a little more balanced.
That said, hands down, Bloodborne is better and I find it much more difficult as well. I've found the bosses, mini bosses and general mobs to be easier on average in Dark Souls 2, even with the changes to the game in the version I'm playing. Enemy tells are much slower, easier to dodge / block and everything feels like its about 75% speed. I feel as though the window to successfully evade attacks is larger, especially if you are close to the enemy, I find blocking to be a huge crutch for most of the game and LOLRANGE really feels like it trivializes the game.
Despite some of them being cheesemode I enjoy the class options but I found Bloodborne to be much harder, especially on the bosses. The other odd thing that I didn't see in Bloodborne is enemies leash which makes things much easier when shit goes wrong and you get a pack of nasty things chasing you down. Pathing is also whacked at times and I've made enemies run off cliffs or ledges to their deaths as I kited them around exploiting Terrain. One big annoyance I've found is the target lock on is pretty whacked at times. Especially if you have a NPC, say the torch guy in harbor, following you around you'll target him instead of the mobs attacking you which adds a lot of frustration. Same with enemies at height or if you are slightly out of range it is infuriating to try and target them only to flip the camera around and lose out on precious seconds.
Not to say Dark Souls is garbage or that I'm not enjoying myself, that is certainly not the case. I hope Bloodborne considers expanding the class options some to open up game play a bit. I'd also like Bloodborne to be a bit more like souls in regards to their world design. I never once felt lost in Bloodborne where as without a guide Dark Souls 2 can be quite confusing. Perhaps some middle ground there is best. There is a lot to like in the Souls series but those of you that have never played Bloodborne seriously are missing out. They both do different things really well and still scratch the same itch.
PSN has this on sale for $24 so I grabbed it to give it another go.
I do feel that Bloodborne is the better game but one thing I do enjoy from Souls are the classes and the variety of game play options that result. Even if some of them are cheese mode. That is certainly something I hope Bloodborne copies and refines and makes them a little more balanced.
That said, hands down, Bloodborne is better and I find it much more difficult as well. I've found the bosses, mini bosses and general mobs to be easier on average in Dark Souls 2, even with the changes to the game in the version I'm playing. Enemy tells are much slower, easier to dodge / block and everything feels like its about 75% speed. I feel as though the window to successfully evade attacks is larger, especially if you are close to the enemy, I find blocking to be a huge crutch for most of the game and LOLRANGE really feels like it trivializes the game.
Despite some of them being cheesemode I enjoy the class options but I found Bloodborne to be much harder, especially on the bosses. The other odd thing that I didn't see in Bloodborne is enemies leash which makes things much easier when shit goes wrong and you get a pack of nasty things chasing you down. Pathing is also whacked at times and I've made enemies run off cliffs or ledges to their deaths as I kited them around exploiting Terrain. One big annoyance I've found is the target lock on is pretty whacked at times. Especially if you have a NPC, say the torch guy in harbor, following you around you'll target him instead of the mobs attacking you which adds a lot of frustration. Same with enemies at height or if you are slightly out of range it is infuriating to try and target them only to flip the camera around and lose out on precious seconds.
Not to say Dark Souls is garbage or that I'm not enjoying myself, that is certainly not the case. I hope Bloodborne considers expanding the class options some to open up game play a bit. I'd also like Bloodborne to be a bit more like souls in regards to their world design. I never once felt lost in Bloodborne where as without a guide Dark Souls 2 can be quite confusing. Perhaps some middle ground there is best. There is a lot to like in the Souls series but those of you that have never played Bloodborne seriously are missing out. They both do different things really well and still scratch the same itch.