um yeah you pulled this completely out of your ass, never said this. I don't for a second trust eg7's numbers now that you showed me they are claiming 66k subs in 2020 despite none of them ever logging in. I have to go back and find the video that was linked again from 2023 and find the spot where they then claimed only 20k subs 3 years later. Yet they still say no fall in subscribers? and they magically sell just enough krono to support that 66k number and not one cent more. You really believe that there are zero excess krono on any account anywhere? they magically sell just enough to cover next months subscription cost? lol
You have a very serious comprension issue of rather simple concepts other adults wouldnt struggle this much to pick up on. It took 3 replies for your to finally understand the lines were going up and not down. You do not play this game, you do not know what the populations look like or how anything related to the game works. You do not understand how they account for krono. Stop acting like you do.
Krono isn't required to sub and they more than likely attribute krono revenue to a game when its actually consumed in game. There's also 3rd party krono sells which have probably been in circulation for years and what most people use. The revenue numbers would be massively out of whack if those were added on purchase.
I tell you there was leaked data on YouTube, but you'll trust the investor data.
Oh and "leaked data"? Yeah right. I'll believe the enads investor data over some bullshit numbers like that.
I try my best to explain to you how graphs and numbers work and why you are massively wrong. You double down and proceed to making up a slide that doesn't actually exist in the video to cover your stupidity and continue your charade.
You proceed to decide that a source from youtube, who is shilling thj, is now a reputable source when he gives you zero information on how he managed to do that. For good reason, because there is no actual way of doing it.
Youtube numbers went from bullshit to unquestionable source of truth within hours of each other.
And then investor data, from a company who just willy fully initiated litigation and will have to open their books is actually a money laundering front.
First or all, again you are quoting the mau slide not the sub slide. I'm not sure why you think this is a gotcha, you are looking at the wrong slide.
posted here back when THJ launched. This guy did all the legwork, logging in to all the different live and emu servers and checking population numbers. Everything he says matches what we see from the server status and their financials, that they are down to maybe 4k active players total with about 15k accounts. he claims that the 2k THJ players (at that time) was more than any EQ server had and rivaled any TLP launch such as Teek. He also shows that there were only 3 official EQ servers that were even worth playing on, that had a population large enough to support it.
I look forward to that timestamp about the 20k subs that doesn't actually exist. I gave you the exact timestamp where he says they GAINED(Bigger number, not smaller number) everquest subs in 2023.
Ah now we see you are full of shit too. You just claimed it's impossible for streamers to spend a week logging in to every server during prime time and do a bunch of /who all to get aggregate numbers, and that there is no where you can possibly get login numbers of subscribers from anywhere, yet you pull these out of your ass from where?
I don't trust anyone 100%, but since every single EQ streamer all come to the same conclusion on numbers, and you are the only person anywhere claiming otherwise, that you are full of shit.
Once again, the only hope I have for this trial is that the real numbers are released and we learn that it's all just been a money laundering operation, and I hope they lay you off first
The leaked numbers were from dbg employee who shared it outside of the company and then it spread. I know they are real personally, and I dont expect that to mean anything to you. But there's a pretty substantial detail in the leak that makes it more trustworthy for non believers.
Being that you dont know shit about live, this probably means nothing relevant to you. But somehow this 2022 spreadsheet has Tormax listed as a potential offload server for im guessing yelinak that ended up not getting used. Tormax proceeded to launch 2 years later. So, did the the british canuck "make up fake numbers" and manage to just guess the right npc name out of thousands for a server that would eventually get announced 700 days later? Or more logically, was this generated in house with current insider information and leaked?
Lastly, the idea that I work for dbg is comical. I assure you I hate dbg as much as anyone in this thread. Your posts were just so pants on head that you managed to bring me out of lurking to make sure you were aware.
