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Noodleface
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Yeah people hold onto old processors like they think the new ones offer nothing over them.
You're talking nearly a decade of BIOS updates and chipset improvements that are more than just clock speed
You're talking nearly a decade of BIOS updates and chipset improvements that are more than just clock speed
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Mist
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Well, my 4700K is not really struggling in any games, and I mostly play MTG Arena anyway so it's not like I need a beefy computer.
When I did play Destiny 2 a lot, I had absolutely no FPS or stutter issues but that's because that game is super optimized and would run fine on a potato hooked up to a decent GPU.
Noodleface
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Yeah I mean it depends what you're doing. It'll bottleneck for different people doing different things.
I jsut can't imagine like Crone using a 2500k still ( i know he upgraded)
I jsut can't imagine like Crone using a 2500k still ( i know he upgraded)
I run into more unavoidable CPU bottlenecks than I do GPU ones even with an 8700k. Shitty engine's are going to shit, and it's not like you can just drop a bunch of graphics settings to make up for it where you can for GPU bottlenecks.
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I've been screwing with bios settings and ruined one motherboard and nearly destroyed my 3700X, but it's been fun--almost as fun as the days of manual jumpers and DOS-installed drivers!
So from trial an error and reddit all week I'm kinda gathering this:
* Ryzen 3000 performance is more about improved cache than 7nm (7nm is probably more about yield and profit margin)
* DDR4 @ 3200 CL 14 is a safe bet for RAM. Anything running faster will depend on 1) the mobos bios and 2) the binning of the Infinity Fabric on the CPU
* DDR4 @ 3800 CL 15 is probably the most optimal RAM, but it requires a bit of silicon lottery luck with the CPU
* Min-maxers will want the 3900X (and maybe the 3800X) for better-binned infinity fabric
* The 3700X is nice, but you might not be able to get DDR4 3800 running on it at a 1:1 ratio with IF (so you won't be able to realize the greatest data transfer rates or lowest latency)
* So many "compatible" motherboards are a crapshoot right now. It will take weeks to get bioses working as they should.
* Its drivers and Wattman settings are a mess, but the 5700XT is under-rated, if not great: Result
I think I've got settings done. Time to do a clean install.
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Crone
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In the last year and a half I've upgraded from that i5-2500k, gtx 970, on a 24" 1080p 60hz to Ryzen 5 1700, 1080 Ti, on a 27" 1440p 144hz with G-sync and I'm not all that impressed.
I think the gradual upgrade had something to do with it and if I had them side by side I'd notice more of a difference.
I guess I just hyped it up too much. Witcher 3 looks great on high settings but only hits 90-100 fps. I don't play fps really ever so getting that magic 144 fps doesn't really matter but I thought I'd be able to do it in more games. Destiny 2 or Division 2, again, look good, but don't hit 144 fps when my graphics are all turned up pretty.
Lotta money to just feel "meh" about it all.
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For me the monitor was the biggest deal in things I've upgraded. 27 1440 144 really does look damn good.
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Noodleface
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Brahma
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Returned the Viewsonic monitor. Just can't deal with the size. 32" is too small. Couldn't see shit. Need at least a 43" at this point. Getting old.
The smoothness didn't really impress me as much as I thought it would also playing games. It was just OK.
Guess I will be waiting a bit for a 43" curved, non ultra wide, free/gsync.
The smoothness didn't really impress me as much as I thought it would also playing games. It was just OK.
Guess I will be waiting a bit for a 43" curved, non ultra wide, free/gsync.
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Noodleface
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Your only 16:9 or 21:9 options above 32" are shitty monitors, or the coming $5,000+ BFGD's. Wait for HDMI 2.1 to hit the good televisions and just buy one of those for a fraction of the price, or just buy a decent TV now if you're OK with 60hz.
You will need to sit further back than 2 feet if you're using above 43" though or you'll kill your neck.
You will need to sit further back than 2 feet if you're using above 43" though or you'll kill your neck.
The vast majority of people don't buy ultrawide or super-duper-samsung ultrawide. Combined, they account for well under 5% of displays used according to steam. 1920x1080 ownership is still growing, with 2560x1440 crawling into usage, let alone Ultrawides which are just not that popular outside of a very small segment of PC users.
That said, manufacturers are heavily focusing on ultrawides now which will shift things a bit and bring more universal support from developers.
That said, manufacturers are heavily focusing on ultrawides now which will shift things a bit and bring more universal support from developers.
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