Diablo 3 - Reaper of Souls

Mahes

Bronze Baronet of the Realm
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I need a little help on pricing. Cannot seem to find anything close enough. It certainly has a lot of potential.

Mighty Weapon 1 hander.
720.8 DPS
244 LoH
Socketed
96% crit damage
335 + Str
120 Vitality

Wish the DPS was 800 plus but with that strength and crit dama with socket I have to think this weapon is pretty good.
 

Gavinmad

Mr. Poopybutthole
44,499
54,040
720 base dps one hander, and a mighty weapon at that? It's worthless. Would have been worth a rather large fortune during the first 3-4 months though.
 

Tenks

Bronze Knight of the Realm
14,163
607
Worthless? You're fucking nuts. That is a ridiculous offhand. I'd have to assume well over 100M you may even be talking in the 500M range. If only that LOH was a LS roll you'd have something retardedly expensive. May want to cross it to d2jsp since they may know about items like that a bit better. Being a MW kind of sucks you'd prefer a dagger but you can't win em all.
 

Mahes

Bronze Baronet of the Realm
5,856
7,374
I cannot even find a 1 handed weapon with stats like that, much less a mighty weapon. I even removed the LoH, but with a 300+ Str and a 96% crit damage with a socket nothing pops up. Oh and the vitality. Ill try at 499M. If it sells WOW, if not, I will slowly depress the value.
 

Ishad

Ahn'Qiraj Raider
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4,931
Search the ah for a bul kathos warrior blood with a socket and 80% cd. This would be direct competition. I'd be interested what it goes for.
 

Daidraco

Avatar of War Slayer
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11,373
I just reinstalled this yesterday after reading this thread a bit. I have a 60 demon hunter and was wondering what is the best Inferno build?
I'm in Act II in Inferno and just get my ass handed to me literally every step I take. Not sure if it's gear related or build related or both.
I remember spending a metric asston of gold at one point to get some kick ass gear...which probably isn't kick ass a year later.
I see a ton of builds for Demon Hunters everywhere > But the best build Ive seen and used that does good dps and has a ton of survivability goes as follows...

Abilities with their passives:
Hungering Arrow // Spray of Teeth -- The Penetration from Hungering Arrow will allow the arrow to possibly hit another target. You may Crit on the initial target and then Crit again on the secondary target from the Penetration. Each Critical Strike activates Spray of Teeth which causes additional damage in a small radius around the target of the Critical Strike.

Spike Trap // Echoing Blast -- This is your saving grace. Spike Trap can be spammed into a spot and does substantial damage and works off your crit chance as well. Echoing Blast lets the trap activate 3 times. It has a small interrupt that may keep mobs from attacking you.

Companion // Bat Companion -- Pretty self explanatory. Once its up, its up. Its not there for the damage, but the Hatred regeneration.

Vault // Tumble -- Your Escape with a reduced cost of the next use.

Shadow Power // Gloom -- Shadow Power is a 15% Life Steal and stacks with item Life Steal and LoH. Shadow Power uses Discipline and can be recast (intelligently) as soon as it wears off. With Gloom, you take reduced damage and become quite tanky.

Preparation // Backup Plan - Refills your Discipline and has a 30% chance not to use the cool down.

Passives:
Night Stalker -- Critical Hits restore 1 discipline.
Tactical Advantage -- Gives you a run speed boost after your vault.
Perfectionist -- The standard Passive that every DH uses. Its so good that its 10% of everything.

The nuances and how its used:
The Crit chance from Hungering Arrow with Spray of Teeth refills your Discipline quickly thanks to the Night Stalker passive. The higher you raise your Crit Chance, the quicker discipline refills and the better this build becomes. The Discipline is used by Shadow Power to face tank things that would otherwise one shot you. If you are spamming Spike Traps, they will be constantly hitting the mobs. Regardless if they have you stunned, frozen, whatever. Spike Traps work with the Life steal from items and Shadow Power, so you will stay full health. At lower crit chances, you will probably run out of Discipline and thats when Preparation is used to refill it.

Mobs are still going to hit you hard in the first place, so you have to keep your EHP high enough to withstand that initial shock. I personally dont have the resists and dps/LS to stand in consecration yet (Ive seen it done by some nicely geared DH's) but I can stand up to a pack of elites with a couple lasers taking chunks out of me at MP5 or so. Best advice for this build is to pay attention to your Discipline and when your Shadow Power is going to expire. Plan ahead and get the hell out if you arent going to be able to kill the mob/s before you run completely dry.
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Barbarians are evil > Dont give up the DH to play one!
 

Tenks

Bronze Knight of the Realm
14,163
607
Search the ah for a bul kathos warrior blood with a socket and 80% cd. This would be direct competition. I'd be interested what it goes for.
His has vitality. Bul Kathos could roll either socket or vitality. It is 135 more STR than Bul Kathos can even roll.
 

Ishad

Ahn'Qiraj Raider
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His has vitality. Bul Kathos could roll either socket or vitality. It is 135 more STR than Bul Kathos can even roll.
It gives +elite damage. If a bul kathos with a socket is only going for 5 million it is unlikely his is going to go for 500. Of course his will cost more but it will give an idea of what the market is like.
 

Tenks

Bronze Knight of the Realm
14,163
607
I cannot even find a 1 handed weapon with stats like that, much less a mighty weapon. I even removed the LoH, but with a 300+ Str and a 96% crit damage with a socket nothing pops up. Oh and the vitality. Ill try at 499M. If it sells WOW, if not, I will slowly depress the value.
Since I could actually sit infront of the AH I think I may have overstated the value by a ton. There is a similar weapon to yours (288 STR, 174 VIT, 90 CD, Socket under 800 DPS) for sale for 50M. A few similar comps are there in the 50M range as well (spear, 247 STR, 118 VIT, 99% CD, Socket -- also 50M) so I'd say 50M sounds like a more reasonable price. LOH isn't really worth that much as a stat to begin with and the roll is pretty low for it to even matter for the most part. The issue with offhands is that means you need to MH an EF. And finding a suitable mainhand EF is an expensive venture. So generally people who have one also want a perfect offhand -- which is generally a dagger.
 

Mahes

Bronze Baronet of the Realm
5,856
7,374
I brought it down to 99M. If it goes for that I would be plenty happy. I doubt it will and I will go down to 49M next.
 

Ryoz

<Donor>
846
194
He's getting your hopes up, that wep is no where near 100m. You may be able to fetch 1m, but only from someone that doesn't understand how to gear a barb.

The damage is far too low to be a useful MH. As an offhand, it's not really fast enough, and anyone dropping that kind of dough would likely just buy an ef.

Good luck though! I'm rooting for you.
 

Mures

Blackwing Lair Raider
4,014
511
I see a ton of builds for Demon Hunters everywhere > But the best build Ive seen and used that does good dps and has a ton of survivability goes as follows...

Abilities with their passives:
Hungering Arrow // Spray of Teeth -- The Penetration from Hungering Arrow will allow the arrow to possibly hit another target. You may Crit on the initial target and then Crit again on the secondary target from the Penetration. Each Critical Strike activates Spray of Teeth which causes additional damage in a small radius around the target of the Critical Strike.

Spike Trap // Echoing Blast -- This is your saving grace. Spike Trap can be spammed into a spot and does substantial damage and works off your crit chance as well. Echoing Blast lets the trap activate 3 times. It has a small interrupt that may keep mobs from attacking you.

Companion // Bat Companion -- Pretty self explanatory. Once its up, its up. Its not there for the damage, but the Hatred regeneration.

Vault // Tumble -- Your Escape with a reduced cost of the next use.

Shadow Power // Gloom -- Shadow Power is a 15% Life Steal and stacks with item Life Steal and LoH. Shadow Power uses Discipline and can be recast (intelligently) as soon as it wears off. With Gloom, you take reduced damage and become quite tanky.

Preparation // Backup Plan - Refills your Discipline and has a 30% chance not to use the cool down.

Passives:
Night Stalker -- Critical Hits restore 1 discipline.
Tactical Advantage -- Gives you a run speed boost after your vault.
Perfectionist -- The standard Passive that every DH uses. Its so good that its 10% of everything.

The nuances and how its used:
The Crit chance from Hungering Arrow with Spray of Teeth refills your Discipline quickly thanks to the Night Stalker passive. The higher you raise your Crit Chance, the quicker discipline refills and the better this build becomes. The Discipline is used by Shadow Power to face tank things that would otherwise one shot you. If you are spamming Spike Traps, they will be constantly hitting the mobs. Regardless if they have you stunned, frozen, whatever. Spike Traps work with the Life steal from items and Shadow Power, so you will stay full health. At lower crit chances, you will probably run out of Discipline and thats when Preparation is used to refill it.

Mobs are still going to hit you hard in the first place, so you have to keep your EHP high enough to withstand that initial shock. I personally dont have the resists and dps/LS to stand in consecration yet (Ive seen it done by some nicely geared DH's) but I can stand up to a pack of elites with a couple lasers taking chunks out of me at MP5 or so. Best advice for this build is to pay attention to your Discipline and when your Shadow Power is going to expire. Plan ahead and get the hell out if you arent going to be able to kill the mob/s before you run completely dry.
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Barbarians are evil > Dont give up the DH to play one!
I've never cared for spray of teeth, radius too small for me, but this is a solid build for progression. Only other suggestion I may make is why not use the boar instead of bat in this build? You have nothing that uses a lot of hatred.
 

Mures

Blackwing Lair Raider
4,014
511
Ok, here's my profile.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/N...5/hero/2661326

After looking through the AH yesterday, I realize I need to do some farming for better gear.
That part I get. Build.... not sure about my build.

There's so many to choose from, I'm not sure which is best to use in Inferno mode for both DPS and survival.

Edit** I don't even know what to farm anymore.
The best place for someone to farm who isn't geared would be a3 mp0, but of course you'll have to get there first. The good news is all your gear can be upgraded very cheap. You need dex, vit, crit chance, crit damage, all resist, and attack speed.

Looking at your gear besides just needing more of everything you really need to get your crit up. Get at least 8 crit on your gloves and quiver, get crit damage on your gloves also if you can afford it. Get an amulet with at least 6 crit and 50 crit damage, get rings with at least 3-4 crit. There are several other things you can add onto the rings if you can afford them (besides the obvious dex/vit) there is average damage, crit damage, attack speed, and all resist. You need to get your movement speed up, besides just making things go faster it makes it easier to dodge projectiles. Get movement speed on your boots and then either buy a lacuni prowlers bracers or inna's temperance pants(the lacunis would be the cheaper alternative). After general upgrades if money permits you could get a natalya's chest w/ vit for cheap and a cheap set of natalya's boots and that'll boost your survivability a ton and give you 7 crit chance.

Build is more of personal preference, but you could use the one daidraco listed up above just fine, but I'd suggest using the boar pet instead of bat and because you are so undergeared and crit chance is so low I'd use hungering arrow: devouring arrow, and for passives I'd use perfectionist and keep the archery and steady aim you're using, but like I said thats more about personal preference. Oh and for preparation I prefer the one that heals, at least for progression.
 

Stosh

Bronze Knight of the Realm
201
12
He's getting your hopes up, that wep is no where near 100m. You may be able to fetch 1m, but only from someone that doesn't understand how to gear a barb.

The damage is far too low to be a useful MH. As an offhand, it's not really fast enough, and anyone dropping that kind of dough would likely just buy an ef.

Good luck though! I'm rooting for you.
This.

Your biggest problem is going to be getting people to even see your weapon in the AH. The knowledgeable Barbs are not going to do searches that will even display your item, and the noobs are just going to sort weapons based on the dps number.

You might try trade chat, but be prepared for the helpful trolls to tell the channel how much it sucks.

Good luck.
 

Tenks

Bronze Knight of the Realm
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607
I think the people here who don't know how to gear barbs are, in fact, the ones shitting on the weapon. Like I said it isn't perfect. If it was a dagger it would be a bit better but here are some random profiles from some of the top people on D3Progress. In fact a ton of them are using MW in their offhand. This isn't a pick and choose either that took me an hour this is literally just going over the first 3 pages not even filtered by barb.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/s...5/hero/2945853
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/s...90/hero/844559
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/b...1/hero/7325005
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/r.../hero/11688214
 

Tenks

Bronze Knight of the Realm
14,163
607
And here are some more profiles this time filtered by highest DPS unbuffed. Obviously that isn't the end-all metric since sheet DPS is very misleading for a WW barb (hence their OH is much higher DPS) but the stats and theory behind the OH remain the same.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/d.../hero/28576335
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/m...47/hero/569501
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/d.../hero/13292049
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/s.../hero/14921918


It appears on the Asian servers it is more popular to have an extremely high DPS MH with similar stats and OH an EF.
 

Haast

Lord Nagafen Raider
3,281
1,636
My AH sales have come to a grinding halt this week. Not sure if I am just accidentally overpricing or if the market has slowed down. How's everyone else doing on sales?
 

Ishad

Ahn'Qiraj Raider
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4,931
I think the people here who don't know how to gear barbs are, in fact, the ones shitting on the weapon. Like I said it isn't perfect. If it was a dagger it would be a bit better but here are some random profiles from some of the top people on D3Progress. In fact a ton of them are using MW in their offhand. This isn't a pick and choose either that took me an hour this is literally just going over the first 3 pages not even filtered by barb.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/s...5/hero/2945853
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/s...90/hero/844559
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/b...1/hero/7325005
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/r.../hero/11688214
3/4 are geared like retards. Everyone else you linked is using a billion gold mh and as such aren't going to be buying a sub par offhand.