Diablo 4 / IV / IIII / Fore / Cope / Seethe

Borzak said:

I'd play D2 again if I still had the account. I'm not paying $20 for it. I lost my CD's and whatever account info I used at the time.

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You can get a D2 cd key for waaaaaayyy less than that.

Shit, 10 years ago I was paying like $2 a key. Just look around.

Lanx said:

i think it was, diablo and his two bros were bad evils, somehow they put their souls into stones? the king is crazy and trying to put the diablo soulstone into his son, then himself, you win and realize you gotta stick it in your own head to contain the evil.

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Diablo and bros put themselves into stones, and send the stones to Sanctuary.

Many years later Diablos stone is hidden in the Cathedral Catacombs. Archbishop Lazarous is slowly corrupted by D. D trys to influence good King Leoric, and slowly drives him mad, as the shadows around Tristram darken..
Archbishop Lazarous kidnaps Prince Albrecht and disappears into the depths of the Cathedral which has maddeningly seemed to have grown..

A stranger appears in town to give aid to the cursed town. Dark figures stalk the nights, attacks of unknown creatures assault the inn, and blacksmith..

you arrive too late to save the Prince, the archbiship slams the soulstone into him just before you arrive. Diablo awakens and descends into hell.

you kill Diablo, stick the soulstone into your own head to "contain him" then head East to the land of the Hordradic mages.

What's with this "pick a side:" thing? As Nephilim YOU were a side. Demons and Angels were terrified of you because you were the rock to their scissors. You were the crux that unsettled the balance between light and dark. I don't remember the details from Act IV in Diablo III, but before female Diablo came and started tearing it all down, the Angels were fighting amongst themselves about you and the fate of the rest of the humans/Nephilim. I recall some self-important Angel prick getting all uppity about it.

Edit - Imperius. I just watched the Act IV intro cinematic.

If this has a non-real world cash auction house, it will automatically be better than POE for me.

There was more to Diablo 1 than duping? Godly Plate of the Whale, Kings Sword of Haste... those will always be my fondest memory.
Full disclosure, as a young kid, someone told me dupe all your gear you had to drop it onto the ground and press Alt F4. You better believe I fell for that one.

AH's work best in games with one form of currency. No one is going to be buying/selling high end items for gold. Even with gambling.

Falstaff said:

There was more to Diablo 1 than duping? Godly Plate of the Whale, Kings Sword of Haste... those will always be my fondest memory.
Full disclosure, as a young kid, someone told me dupe all your gear you had to drop it onto the ground and press Alt F4. You better believe I fell for that one.

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We've all fallen for the "52 Pick Up" once in our lives. And once for the "Alt-F4" thing too. It's nothing to be ashamed of! Provided it is only the once, of course.

I tried 52 pick up on my kid and he just snorted in disgust and walked away. Fucking kids these days, no respect.

Slaanesh69 said:

What's with this "pick a side:" thing? As Nephilim YOU were a side. Demons and Angels were terrified of you because you were the rock to their scissors. You were the crux that unsettled the balance between light and dark. I don't remember the details from Act IV in Diablo III, but before female Diablo came and started tearing it all down, the Angels were fighting amongst themselves about you and the fate of the rest of the humans/Nephilim. I recall some self-important Angel prick getting all uppity about it.

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The pick-a-side thing was literally the ending of Diablo3's last expansion. It's exactly where Diablo's story ended.


It can only go towards a conflict amongst and between nephalem, since even Imperius and Tyrael knew nothing in heaven or hell could stop the Nephalem. If the pale summoner in the D4 trailer really is Rathma, that would make him Nephalem #1.

Araxen said:

If this has a non-real world cash auction house, it will automatically be better than POE for me.

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They're gonna have trading but no Auction House at all. It'll be a race to make the first meta-trading app/site. I like some of the trading ideas they have, including having even the most powerful items bind-on-equip or even resellable up to a few times.

idk how i feel about david kim. dude is super smart and did a good job with sc2.

idk if trying to live up to sc1 was ever gonna happen but if you look at sc2 it failed miserably in that regard.

your_mum said:

idk how i feel about david kim. dude is super smart and did a good job with sc2.

idk if trying to live up to sc1 was ever gonna happen but if you look at sc2 it failed miserably in that regard.

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There's no shortage of gameplay and analysis videos from blizzcon to draw reasonable arguments for or against whichever direction the game is going. The devs' interviews with quin and rhykker have even more information about their philosophies about open world randomization, the economy and roguelike dungeons.

Of all the available information to build your speculation on, why bother with one dev's involvement with a previous project? From the way they described their careers in the d4 panel, most of the developers there were involved in any number of previous blizzard products you're just as likely to be fashionably cynical towards.

you must be a stay at home mom or something because in the real world managers and leads are ultimately responsible for an end product's design

i mean just look at the dude who lead designed d3 originally... you trying to tell me that the 50 people on the team weren't saying shit about the dumb down version of the game and AH from day 1 and that it was some random developers ideas lol

your_mum said:

you must be a stay at home mom or something because in the real world managers and leads are ultimately responsible for an end product's design

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Nope, I was just a "real world project manager" for some of the largest capital projects in the world; but thanks for asking. As far your analogy goes, a good project lead would be keeping talent and resources along the critical path according to a formal scope, not micromanaging minutiae like AH and UX design.

So if the game is delivered years behind schedule or ends up costing too much, then sure you can blame the project lead. But there's PLENTY of information out there to whine about, and __ALL__ the remaining blizzard devs are just as likely to be involved in some Blizzard game you're probably fashionably aloof about, so why would you need to draw conclusions about some dev's CV instead of the hours of gameplay and panel discussions that currently exist.

Game is probably pre-alpha and people are seriously overreacting. Alot can happen from here on. Wait till next Blizzcon when the game "should" be in beta and fleshed out more.

are you kidding me... AH = management says we need to rake in the RMT... now the lead designer is responsible for implementing that. he can either push back a little bit or yes man it. dumb down version of a game = accessibilty = management says we need to market to as many people as possible... now the lead designer is responsible for implementing that. he can either put some of his own ideas around while still doing his job then thats not micro managing... PM lol