Generally if there's a tree sitting in a lane at lvl 1, you are relieved, since there is nobody running at your mid, killing your courrier or stealing your bounty runes. Like you can deny a few creeps in lane here and there, but generally your time is better spent getting more xp and gold in the jungle. However, now you can pull and deny your own creeps giving you even more xp...With the new deny xp mechanic, i dont see how trees usaage rate doesnt skyrocket. Ton of utility already and with his base damage being so high its just inevitable.
You can still get the odd last hit with nukes and often they have to choose between CS and denies. And if they overdo it, they end up destabilizing the creep equilibrium one way or another. Past the first 10 minutes, it hardly matters.The anti jungle patch. All jungle creeps got nerfed -20% gold and exp. Dual lanes are the thing. I just see all of my pubs being nightmares at 2 k cause some asshole will still try to jungle and the other 4 will flame the fuck out of him. I agree with you guys about ranged denying but also think melee carries with a quelling blade. Trying to out CS a jugg or lifestealer with a qb is tough.