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Julian The Apostate
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Penance
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I was with my friend today and he got the email that spoiled it. I was avoiding everything, reddit and google news and everything until I got home and watched it. I didn't think I'd even have to tell him not to spoil it cause he only watches fighting game shit on twitch and doesn't give a shit about mobas. He says out loud "why is twitch sending me an email about so and so winning TI9, i don't give a shit".
Fucking cool shit bro
Fucking cool shit bro
Kiroy
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having the international overseas is an affront to american supremacy and Trump should get involved
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Gravel
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Yeah, they pretty much rolled through upper bracket.
But by the same token, Liquid I think was 11-1 in the lower? They only lost the one game to LGD.
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I would vote for trump if he brought TI back to ‘merica where it belongs
and build a wall around china while we’re at it amirite
Delly
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Except it is Trump's immigration policy that pushed it away and Valve said that was a big factor in why they left the US. I could care less about the people involved, just somebody figure out the policy so we can have in back in the US.
www.polygon.com
www.pcgamesn.com
www.seattletimes.com
How will Trump’s visa restrictions affect Dota 2’s International tournament?
Valve boss Gabe Newell says esports events could be moved out of U.S.
www.polygon.com
Valve will move Dota 2 International out of USA if immigration difficulties continue
Valve may hold its annual Dota 2 tournament, The International, outside the USA for only the second time in its history, if obstacles to immigration into the country get any worse.Like to compete in The International one day? Get started with the best Dota 2 heroes for beginners.
www.pcgamesn.com
Threat of visa restrictions raises concerns about Seattle hosting ‘Dota 2’ video-gaming competition
Executives at Bellevue gaming giant Valve say they would consider moving their flagship e-sports tournament from Seattle if it became harder to get the tournament's players and fans into the country.
www.seattletimes.com
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It makes perfect sense to bring TI to other parts of the globe to give more people the opportunity to attend or just have it in a reasonable timezone for them.
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Except it is Trump's immigration policy that pushed it away and Valve said that was a big factor in why they left the US. I could care less about the people involved, just somebody figure out the policy so we can have in back in the US.
How will Trump’s visa restrictions affect Dota 2’s International tournament?
Valve boss Gabe Newell says esports events could be moved out of U.S.
Valve will move Dota 2 International out of USA if immigration difficulties continue
Valve may hold its annual Dota 2 tournament, The International, outside the USA for only the second time in its history, if obstacles to immigration into the country get any worse.Like to compete in The International one day? Get started with the best Dota 2 heroes for beginners.
Threat of visa restrictions raises concerns about Seattle hosting ‘Dota 2’ video-gaming competition
Executives at Bellevue gaming giant Valve say they would consider moving their flagship e-sports tournament from Seattle if it became harder to get the tournament's players and fans into the country.
I kinda feel like that's bullshit. But is it?
Was the US the country having via issues for years? I remember that shit, barely, but not well enough to refer to memory.
Call it Professional skepticism
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Delly
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The articles address that there were issues before but that Valve could use their connections to typically push visas through. They weren't sure they would be able to do that since their own employees were having Visa troubles (after Trumps changes) so how likely would it be to get some random gamer from China into the US for 2 weeks?
Who knows, maybe everything would be okay, but why take the risk that a star player couldn't come and ruin the chances for a team and essentially ruin the legitimacy of TI?
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Intrinsic
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There were always a bunch of issues, but not having the details of each individual one makes it hard to know the fault (we’ve always had dumb rules and quite a few have been player issues in filing out paper work, again because our process may be inane).
All three articles are from 2017, all sourcing the same quote, speculating that possible immigration policies that didn’t even exist at the time MAY have an impact on TI remaining in the U.S. All while offering no further evidence, specific policy, or instances of this being the case.
But hey, make sure you run out and blame Trump. Because reasons.
Delly
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I just want to add that I'm not pointing fingers, just going off the information Valve provided. Whether that is the truth or a convenient excuse for them to move the tournament out of the US, I dont know.
Most likely there is a little bit of both. Nothing wrong with a little bit of faith and skepticism.
Most likely there is a little bit of both. Nothing wrong with a little bit of faith and skepticism.
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The problem is always for the teams that have to get in via open qualifiers, there is a fairly short window. 1 month might be ok for some countries, but if you have a country that is all "lol wut is esports?" or some backlogged/difficult visa process that can't be fast trackers, then you're fucking up a multi-million dollar tournament.
Makes sense to go to a smaller country/region where you can potentially get more assurances that won't be an issue.
That being said, TI11 has a strong chance of being in Seattle again if Key Arena is good to go.
Makes sense to go to a smaller country/region where you can potentially get more assurances that won't be an issue.
That being said, TI11 has a strong chance of being in Seattle again if Key Arena is good to go.
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