Dragon's Dogma 2

Hateyou said:

I don’t think it’s fair to compare the questing to amalur. Amalur was dozens of very generic fetch stuff all over the place. DD had some things like that but no where near the amount.

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I didn't mean specifically the quests but more like, everything. Sure they're different games and I think Dragon's Dogma is a lot better, but they're the same brand of somewhat generic action RPG, with a main story, some side quests, gear upgrade, get more skills as you level, class centric, 3rd person action combat with a bigger focus on faster pace and somewhat "arcade-y" combat than games like Souls or Monster Hunter(other than Rise). I think they're very similar, just Dragon's Dogma is better in most regards, the combat is more fun, the classes are more fun, the sidequests are sometimes more fun(some of them are boring usual shit), the main story... well it's not much different it's kinda whatever. Dragon's Dogma has a larger more open world but it's still relatively small but iirc Amalur was just zones so that's still better.

To me Kingdom of Amalur is a lot closer to DD than Dark Souls is in terms of what type of game they are. Maybe another one would be Fable. Interestingly for as "generic" the formula feels, I can't think of that many titles that do this exact thing of traditional RPG with action combat.

Anyway it's worth playing the game to see what it's about imo, it goes on sale all the time especially on PC.

New Trickster video from IGN

Very interesting concept, I don't know how good it'll be, as it looks very gimmicky, especially for the tougher boss fights stuff, but there's likely a bunch of higher tier skills not shown in that demo they played so there's room for more stuff.

The whole setting your clone onto cliffs with fake ground to get stuff to jump after them definitely feels gimmicky as shit but depending on how it works on higher end enemies and how fast you kill average encounters, I feel it might be a great way to powerlevel at some point. The forced stagger+buff pawn combo for minibosses looked like it'd be strong, assuming pawns dmg doesn't fall off(the demo is likely balanced for journalists, aka easy shit so hard to say there).

Definitely not a "first run" material class, but likely one for replays once you know what to expect and how to exploit it best. I could see it ended up broken but also boring as fuck so we'll see I guess.

elidib said:

cute tricks, but that shit looked so useless. I guess it'll depend on how good the party buffs are whether it'll be worth a slot. It would have to increase attack a LOT to be worth it over an actual attacking class.

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Yeah but unless they massively reduced the amount of skills, what they've shown so far should be a small part of the overall kit of classes. Every class in DD1 had like 8-10skills per weapons and 2-3 weapons per class plus there was 2-3 ranks of most skills which got better as you upgraded them, so what they've shown here feels very limited. Not sure if they cut the multiple weapon per class thing but I'd be surprised if the class can only make wall, ground, dragon, aoe aggro, party buff with clone and astral projection likely being core skills(unrelated to weapon) and single target aggro being just basic attacks. There's likely 2-3 more skills, and upgrade to these skills and if they cut weapons I'd expect double that hopefully.

Oh that last video was quite nice, lots of new footage and a few interesting bits.

No quest markers is surprising(maybe optional?) since handholding is the name of the game lately, I guess without quest markers you will need a 2nd playthrough to get all the sidequests done with a guide since I assume some quests will still be time sensitive. Them going back to 10k gold ferrystone(assuming gold is about the same as the original) is also an interesting choice(the infinite ferrystone was too strong, but there's a middly ground inbetween), the city to city cart travel sounds nice enough as a option for inbetween until lategame when you can afford to just spam teleports. Pawns actually being useful at indicating there's secrets and what not sounds great. There were some new locations in that video(the inside of some castle with orcs similar to the Shadow Keep) and some details on classes too(warriors having a mini rythm check to keep speed up, sorcs having a meditation skill to regenerate stamina quickly inbetween big spells). Also you unlock some(maybe all?) of them via quests, instead of requiring you level base classes, which is great. I hated having to grind Fighter and Mage to unlock Warrior and Sorc and the others, apparently guy did a quest and unlocked both Warrior and Sorcerer out of them and that's likely pretty early too since he only played 10hours.

Also one big change that was mentionned is healing items do not heal over the "reduced cap" of healing unlike the 1st game. In the first game, you can use healing spells in combat to heal your "grey bar" but you always lose a bit of max hp and eventually you have to use items to heal that. Effectively however it means once you have infinite healing materials you can just spam items and not bother with the heal spells at all and never have to care about the systems. In this one, assuming journalist guy isn't wrong here, healing items only function the same as healing spells, they only heal the grey bar. The only way to refill max hp seems to be camping or resting at an inn. There might be rare consumables that help with that later on too but that makes my worry of spamming herbs(which have no animation/cooldown apparently) to trivialize everything not nearly as important, since getting hit a lot will mean your max hp will get fucked up.

I hope Capcom releases a video series like they do for MHW for each vocation, I want to see that spear thing and the sort of changes they made to magick archer which was one of my favorite class in the original.

Talenvor said:

Disappointed to see in that video that the stamina bar still depletes while running when out of combat. If they are really going for an explore and travel everywhere on foot theme, then that is going to be frustrating

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Yeah I noticed that one too, and it drained real fucking fast too, that's really something they should have copied from other games. It's obviously fine if you're in combat but when out of combat it should not drain or drain much slower than normal if you really don't want ppl perma sprinting. That or obviously mounts.

New trailer from PS5 announcements


Edit: Can't switch classes midfight, instead is a new class that can use multiple classes with low stats. Still cool as fuck.