Dune (2020)

Nowadays those extended, heavily produced, highly anticipated trailers are more about collecting data and gathering opinions than "teasing" fans. For them, Villeneuve + Dune is already enough. As a director, when your movie is already filmed and under editing wraps, it's important to show producers how high the hype is. It's about how both your director vision and the producers goal will meet.

That what failed with Lynch's Dune, director wanted absolute control, producers got the infamous final cut instead, results were the 1984 films as it is, with Lynch disowing the film and DeLaurentis doing his edit while going lengths explaining the lore.

As both a Herbert's Dune and a Villeneuve fan, I couldn't be more happy after watching the trailer, I just hope the movie won't be a box-office bomb so that we'll have more Dune stuff. And by Dune stuff, I mean maybe more first book quality than, as Feanor explained, Herbert later works which are not as interesting, unless you have a hardon about cheesy, convoluted, weird-but-not-that-weird soap opera.

I tried reading Dune when i was 13, right in the middle of my Robert E Howard/Dragonlance/David Eddings phase. It didn't go very well. I need to pick it up and try again.

TheBeagle said:

I tried reading Dune when i was 13, right in the middle of my Robert E Howard/Dragonlance/David Eddings phase. It didn't go very well. I need to pick it up and try again.

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Yeah, got to read Dune, dude.

Ive never been pulled into a world like I was when reading Dune. That shit takes all of your concentration and attention to grasp and you just end up enveloped. I too read it a while ago, I felt like the kid in the attic from The Never Ending Story.

Araysar said:

I dont know anything about Dune and as a filthy casual this trailer isnt doing anything for me. Cinematography is nice though, but that's expected from Villeneuve films.

What's so special about Dune?

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I dunno. It's a good book but highly overrated. The sequels were less good and got worse over time.

The less said about screen adaptations, the better.

Aldarion said:

Fine, I agree both of them have satisfying endings. Fair point. Doesnt change the fact that both books are prologue to the core story.

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It's clearly obvious once you start the second book that Dune wasn't ever meant to have a sequel.

Mudcrush Durtfeet said:

It's clearly obvious once you start the second book that Dune wasn't ever meant to have a sequel.

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Funny because Dune was originally written in 3 parts. Parts 1 and 2 became the first book and part 3 became the second book. But okay dumbass

The whole point was to build up and tear down the hero monomyth which if you pay attention happens in Dune and Messiah

Its not.

Mudcrush Durtfeet said:

It's clearly obvious once you start the second book that Dune wasn't ever meant to have a sequel.

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What a bizarre claim. I dont see it as really worth addressing; anyone who read and understood the book understands.

The story of Paul is only important because it lets the reader understand why Leto had to do what he did.

Mudcrush Durtfeet said:

It's clearly obvious once you start the second book that Dune wasn't ever meant to have a sequel.

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He absolutely meant to write the sequels. The series is about cult of personality among other things. Dune sets up the infallible hero archetype, Messiah knocks him down. The rest continue exploring various themes that are integral to the whole story.

Discussing quality doesn't mean the other books, arguably up to GEoD, aren't essential parts of Dune and shit.

Feanor said:

The series is about cult of personality among other things. Dune sets up the infallible hero archetype, Messiah knocks him down.

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This is super interesting. Do you know where I could read more about it?

Campbell1oo4 said:

This is super interesting. Do you know where I could read more about it?

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If you're interested in reading more about why people shouldn't have blind faith in a messiah with all the answers, try reading these :

Here.

Also "A Study on Dune's Messiah Complex"

And lastly "The Rise And Fall Of Paul Atreides"

Campbell1oo4 said:

This is super interesting. Do you know where I could read more about it?

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Frank Herbert:
I had this theory that superheroes were disastrous for humans, that even if you postulated an infallible hero, the things this hero set in motion fell eventually into the hands of fallible mortals. What better way to destroy a civilization, society or a race than to set people into the wild oscillations which follow their turning over their judgment and decision-making faculties to a superhero?

Parts of Dune Messiah and Children of Dune were written before Dune was completed. They fleshed out more in the writing, but the essential story remained intact.

It's clearly obvious Mudcrush Durtfeet can be dumb as shit.