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Nirgon

Log Wizard
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Farm something else, sell it, buy what you want.

I usually bought things with plat than camped them myself anyways.

Holding down SRO (lots of pvp, both class portals and it was en route to lguk) for jboot MQs was great profit.
 

Bellringer_sl

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Someone saying you don't always get what you want isn't "debunking" anything. In clssic EQ, if you played during prime time hours, there would be no open camps in Lower Guk or Sol B. So you really can't do anything. I spent many nights sitting at the entrance to Lower Guk looking for groups for hours and then logging off. It's ridiculous to expect people to put up with that when there's other options out there.
Sounds like you didn't explore all your options. Not the games fault you didn't come to play man. Compete.
 

Dizzam_sl

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Someone saying you don't always get what you want isn't "debunking" anything. In clssic EQ, if you played during prime time hours, there would be no open camps in Lower Guk or Sol B. So you really can't do anything. I spent many nights sitting at the entrance to Lower Guk looking for groups for hours and then logging off. It's ridiculous to expect people to put up with that when there's other options out there.
Like I said, don't throw all of the good loot in 2-3 dungeons. Besides, if this game is really going to be the biggest sandbox ever, then it should have open PvP. If you want a camp someone else has, then fight them for it.
 

Bellringer_sl

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Like I said, don't throw all of the good loot in 2-3 dungeons. Besides, if this game is really going to be the biggest sandbox ever, then it should have open PvP. If you want a camp someone else has, then fight them for it.
Furthermore, you don't even need PvP to fight for camps.
 

Grim1

Ahn'Qiraj Raider
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Someone saying you don't always get what you want isn't "debunking" anything. In clssic EQ, if you played during prime time hours, there would be no open camps in Lower Guk or Sol B. So you really can't do anything. I spent many nights sitting at the entrance to Lower Guk looking for groups for hours and then logging off. It's ridiculous to expect people to put up with that when there's other options out there.
The inability of people to find groups or camps spots was a problem in EQ. It generally wasn't as bad as you make it but it did exist, depending on the popularity of the camp, your class, and what level you were at.

Being a SK during the time when they brought a xp penalty to the group I felt it especially hard at first. But I stuck it out. Learned my class, earned a reputation as a good tank / puller and eventually was getting group invites to prime camping spots as soon as I logged in. This was before I joined a guild mind you. Being in a good guild is another way to combat those issues.

I do think that the devs have to consider those problems you mentioned but they don't need to become a WoW clone to solve them. Players will overcome the problems themselves if you give them plenty of options, places to go and incentives to do so. Games don't have to become hyper instanced loot pinatas just because Jonny want's a "WIN!" button.
 

Bellringer_sl

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Exactly what grim said. Building a rep and gaining friends was huge. Logging in and staying at zone in looking for a group for an hour does not always get you somewhere. There were many times when a group would claim multiple spawns by just having different people respond to camp checks. Gotta call bluffs. Sure it wasn't always easy, but isn't that what keeps you coming back for more?
 

Bellringer_sl

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Pretty sure this is calling for trainable mobs.

Yes, please.
You don't even have to train people. If you bing a group down and start competing for those mobs, the groups will tend to pull trains on themselves because they don't want your group to get what they usually wouldn't pull at that time. Then you swoop in and take that camp.
 
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And the only people who think I'm a "pathetic loser" are themselves pathetic losers who just wish I was too so they could somehow feel above me. But really, you are inferior to me in every measurable way.
 

Bellringer_sl

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And the only people who think I'm a "pathetic loser" are themselves pathetic losers who just wish I was too so they could somehow feel above me. But really, you are inferior to me in every measurable way.
Did you know that your reaction's are why they continue to bash you?
 
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Did you know that your reaction's are why they continue to bash you?
Yes. But I can't let people insult me without insulting them back. Only problem is that I am good at it and then they go crying to draegan who bans me because he is a fuckwit.

There have been occasions when I let a comment go. But not from DMK, he is a stupid little child and the worst poster on this entire forum. Except maybe Carl. But he doesn't really count.

Did you know Kangaroos can't hop backwards?
And their pouches are sticky.
 

Dizzam_sl

shitlord
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Furthermore, you don't even need PvP to fight for camps.
True, but it's more fun if you do
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