EQ TLP 2025 Fangbreaker Expanded Start Resource Hunter Legacy Characters Encounter Locking
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Arbitrary
Tranny Chaser
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Enough people have been away from the game for a long enough period of time that Daybreak's got a dead cat bounce waiting for them in May if they go with another free trade server. "Everyone's coming back bro c'mon bro we need you bro free trade bro just level one character bro" that kind of thing. That all works a lot better on people that haven't played in a while.
Retention is going to be ass though. People are going to set new personal bests for how long it takes to reach "what the fuck am I even doing here." All the reasons you stopped playing the last half-dozen times are still here, got worse and multiplied.
Retention is going to be ass though. People are going to set new personal bests for how long it takes to reach "what the fuck am I even doing here." All the reasons you stopped playing the last half-dozen times are still here, got worse and multiplied.
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Zaide
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Most people missed it but there was a period yesterday where you could see a series of polls on the forums if you were not logged in. These polls were a series of rule options for the upcoming TLP, and the gist I got from it was that they’ll be opening polls for players to vote on every aspect of the ruleset soon. The polls I saw closed on Jan 10th.
Screenshots courtesy of Frank
I realize these say “Developer Polls” so you might initially think they’re internal, but the actual text following the PvP poll shows they expect 5,000 votes minimum for some of these.
Screenshots courtesy of Frank
I realize these say “Developer Polls” so you might initially think they’re internal, but the actual text following the PvP poll shows they expect 5,000 votes minimum for some of these.
hats
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Funcom did this for their AO RK19 server in 2019
I felt very involved and was happy to give my opinion on the polls. But then they went off and ignored the results, and did whatever they wanted / had the money and developers for.
The polls were created by the community leads, who I guess forwarded the results to the devs for ‘consideration.’ Basically just pissed everyone off and eroded trust.
I wonder how it will go with Daybreak
I felt very involved and was happy to give my opinion on the polls. But then they went off and ignored the results, and did whatever they wanted / had the money and developers for.
The polls were created by the community leads, who I guess forwarded the results to the devs for ‘consideration.’ Basically just pissed everyone off and eroded trust.
I wonder how it will go with Daybreak
moonarchia
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Elderan
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Voting like this is a horrible idea..
They should present 4-5 rules packages and have people vote on the package. Doing it like this is just going to be confusing and everything will be voted yes for except maybe pvp and level locking.
They should present 4-5 rules packages and have people vote on the package. Doing it like this is just going to be confusing and everything will be voted yes for except maybe pvp and level locking.
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Elderan
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It also concerns me they seem to still have no idea what people want.
Next server just needs to be simple, and known to bring in the masses but not the exact same server as the last few FV
Next server just needs to be simple, and known to bring in the masses but not the exact same server as the last few FV
- FV Loot (No random, No bonus)
- Resource Hunter
- Relaxed Truebox day 1 (3 clients per pc),
- Truebox removed in OOW
- Legacy chars
- NO TOWER
- Mischief expansion release schedule aka 1 month classic, 2 months kunark and so on
Mrniceguy
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These polls expose the fatal flaw for why this wont work. The Devs are fucking lazy, none of this is new it's just rehashed slop. It's the right idea but the execution will be so fucking awful it won't matter.
Also it's crazy to not address botting, boxing and AEpling in the polls when those are some of the most divisive things on TLPs
Also it's crazy to not address botting, boxing and AEpling in the polls when those are some of the most divisive things on TLPs
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Once you start botting. you realise how many people are botting.
Game is dead and they know it.
Banning the same toons every 2-3 months for 7 days is laughable.
Game is dead and they know it.
Banning the same toons every 2-3 months for 7 days is laughable.
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Zaide
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So I've heard that these may not necessarily reflect an intent to let the players vote on the ruleset, and that the internal polls are changing frequently. I guess we'll see.
If they're refining the polls still and they might be proposed to the players, now might be a good time for folks to post some poll ideas an/or ideas on how to avoid fucking the polls up (Like having 6+ options in one poll, splitting the vote and not seeing whats got a broad appeal vs the most popular among niche opinions).
If they're refining the polls still and they might be proposed to the players, now might be a good time for folks to post some poll ideas an/or ideas on how to avoid fucking the polls up (Like having 6+ options in one poll, splitting the vote and not seeing whats got a broad appeal vs the most popular among niche opinions).
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I'm surprised they didn't add random ability to the bosses with mischief. Random Loot, Random Ability.
Make Motm random with different effects so you need to think for a second before you engage.
E.g. an AOW that dragon fears and is susceptible to piercing one week then next week he drops a big Vulak slow and is undead.
Atleast it will incentivize people to level up their personas!
Make Motm random with different effects so you need to think for a second before you engage.
E.g. an AOW that dragon fears and is susceptible to piercing one week then next week he drops a big Vulak slow and is undead.
Atleast it will incentivize people to level up their personas!
Arbitrary
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The last time they let people vote it resulted in Lockjaw having six month unlock timers that then require a vote to advance to the next expansion. Maybe no one from that period is still at the company (it would explain The Shadows Continuing until fucking February) but let's hope that isn't the case.
If they're committed to no new ideas than anything other than free trade is a mistake.
If they're committed to no new ideas than anything other than free trade is a mistake.
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moonarchia
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Yes. All TLPs should be Free Trade + whatever other shit no one gives a single solitary fuck about.
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Rajaah
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As far as the name scheme goes, this particular poll would make more sense if Standard+ were dropped entirely and Extended / Extended+ got switched. It would just look neater.
Accelerated+ (4 weeks on all)
Accelerated (4 or 8 weeks)
Standard (8 or 12 weeks)
Extended (12 weeks on all)
Extended+ (12 or 16 weeks)
Five, nice and simple. See where most votes skew, if they lean towards less or more or the status quo.
At this point having level increase expansions take longer doesn't make sense to me anymore. When people are max level after a day or two (and for high tier guilds, that's while beating the expansion before we even get to leveling), why add a month? Keeping all of them at one unlock rate would be fine. 2 months across the board with several logical consolidations (like DoDH+PoR and PoP+LoY+LDoN) would fix all their cadence issues. The hardest expansion to beat in-era is Burning Lands and two months will be cutting it close for everyone except top-level guilds, but other than that one particular expansion (one particular raid, really, because the expansion is dirt easy outside of Mearatas), 2 months is more than enough time for any other expansion.
One thing that gives me some serious pause is how the poll says "cadence of unlocks after Planes of Power" which is worrisome. PoP is their biggest attrition speed bump and the timeline wrinkle most in-need of ironing. This poll makes it sound like everything is fine up through PoP and then after that things need adjustment. We don't need or want 3 months in Kunark, Velious, Luclin, or PoP at this point, nor do we need LDoN adding any damn time.
In addition to shorter unlocks, it would also be nice if we got quicker exp rates, especially once AAs unlock. Nobody in their middle age wants to grind AAs anymore, especially not on multiple personas. I'd move GoD's exp bonus to Luclin, DoDH's to GoD, and TSS's to DoDH. And maybe even give the first two a bit of a raise to bring them a little closer to TSS.