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Tranny Chaser
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I dunno, from everything I've seen MMO RMTing makes you a cuck. Like I think there's probably money to be made in sucking dick too, doesn't make it a respectable occupation.
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Evernothing
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Ravanta
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Ugh, just the thought of relying on EQ farming as a form of income makes me want to hurl. I'm sure we all know why games like EQ can be habit forming, especially since it is becoming common knowledge that random reward systems produce more dopamine in most people when compared to rewards based on a set schedule.
My own experience with RMT in EQ is fairly limited, as I farmed occasionally in a couple of expansions. I really only sold platinum and the occasional chase item to one particular company, never bothered to sell it to people directly. During my velious farming heyday I was averaging somewhere around $25 an hour but I just couldn't do it more than 3-4 hours a day because the repetition was just so boring. I'm sure others could do more, but I never liked playing more than one character at a time. That lasted a few months before I stopped completely. Some time later things got pretty insane though, due to my getting extremely lucky, I ended up with more platinum than I could ever liquidate. I sold a fair amount but stopped because I lost interest in the game.
I'm realizing now that if I spent the time to liquidate it, I could probably pick up a watch I've been fantasizing about purchasing for the last couple of years. It sounds like a really good idea actually. The people who farm video games full time to support themselves must have complete immunity from boredom. It reminds me of those guys whose job it is to work in those remote weather stations. Completely isolated, and nothing really to do but read books and watch their fingernails grow.
Well the thing is, you really aren't playing the game that much when farming EQ. In other games afk scripting is the most common thing for rmt'ers so they aren't having to play the game at all.
Think about this, most eq camps are on a 20 to 30 min timer for respawns. You spend maybe 1 minute to clear the spawns. In reality, you are really only doing something in the game for 2-3 minutes every hour. For example when I farm, and if no one is messing with me, half the time I'm not even at my computer. I walk back right before the stuff respawns, kill it, then leave again for 19-29 minutes and do other things. Even if you sat at your computer the whole time there is plenty to do, watch youtube, movies, online college, or even people who work from home at their computer already anyway. A few rmt'ers i know already work programming jobs from home and just have a box crew set up at a camp and kill the mobs once every 20-30 minutes and go back to working.
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I remember back in like 2009? IDK it was catacysm era I used honorbuddy to run 20 protection paladins across different servers/factions to farm herbs and mines, it was about $100 for a max level account but I liked to level my own and prot paladins were easy to automate leveling. So once max level they farmed $100 worth of mats a week per account. The script would go node to node, bags full it would hearth and mail to my auction house mule then fly back to the zone it was in and continue farming.
I spent about 2 hours a day empting my auction house mule's mailbox for AH profits/COD/Farmed materials and using addons to list or bulk mail COD to private buyers. So yeah scripts ftw. It was crazy watching it take a good 5 minutes to empty my mailbox. Even some of those auction house addons are like their own scripts, kept track of prices for me, the price i listed at, the average, would snipe cheap items etc.
The cherry on top was honorbuddy was kick ass for pvp so I picked up a pvp routine and people that would stalk me flying node to node would more than likely die to my protection paladin cause he was so beefy and never ran out of mana to heal. That was hilarious to watch. A few of my paladins I ran through battlegrounds bot and got them full geared up for resilience too. It was a fun pet project.
Buying max level characters was quicker but liked to "raise" my own, until they started banning once a month then I bought lol.
I used guild bank deposit with a brand new level 1 vanilla char in the guild that would then invite china men to take gold out (after they paid me) or f2f trade sometimes. Pretty much everytime I moved more than a million gold it lead to a ban so the vanilla account would take the hit. Sometimes a farmer or two or my AH toon. But you know $100 for a max level that makes it back in a week of farming.
Eventually they started banning my level 1 vanilla accounts before I had even logged on them. One night I was feelin tired so I activated one, went to bed expecting to log on it in the morning to unload my gold for the week, and found it banned. Associated to exploitive activity - hadnt even logged on the game with that account haha.
I even taught my pal to farm this shit on his own, he found other servers to farm on and he worked full time job and would come home from work to manage his mailbox/sales each night, was good extra money.
It's all about the scripts and how much time it takes vs profit, but it is best to be a "side" income. I mean fuark imagine it being your only income and any day you could wake up or come home and be blanket banned. I lost 17 accounts one time while I was on vacation, found out through 17 ban emails. After that they banned once a month, and now honor buddy I read is closing down cause blizzard has begun scanning customers computers beyond the wow process for honorbuddy.
I spent about 2 hours a day empting my auction house mule's mailbox for AH profits/COD/Farmed materials and using addons to list or bulk mail COD to private buyers. So yeah scripts ftw. It was crazy watching it take a good 5 minutes to empty my mailbox. Even some of those auction house addons are like their own scripts, kept track of prices for me, the price i listed at, the average, would snipe cheap items etc.
The cherry on top was honorbuddy was kick ass for pvp so I picked up a pvp routine and people that would stalk me flying node to node would more than likely die to my protection paladin cause he was so beefy and never ran out of mana to heal. That was hilarious to watch. A few of my paladins I ran through battlegrounds bot and got them full geared up for resilience too. It was a fun pet project.
Buying max level characters was quicker but liked to "raise" my own, until they started banning once a month then I bought lol.
I used guild bank deposit with a brand new level 1 vanilla char in the guild that would then invite china men to take gold out (after they paid me) or f2f trade sometimes. Pretty much everytime I moved more than a million gold it lead to a ban so the vanilla account would take the hit. Sometimes a farmer or two or my AH toon. But you know $100 for a max level that makes it back in a week of farming.
Eventually they started banning my level 1 vanilla accounts before I had even logged on them. One night I was feelin tired so I activated one, went to bed expecting to log on it in the morning to unload my gold for the week, and found it banned. Associated to exploitive activity - hadnt even logged on the game with that account haha.
I even taught my pal to farm this shit on his own, he found other servers to farm on and he worked full time job and would come home from work to manage his mailbox/sales each night, was good extra money.
It's all about the scripts and how much time it takes vs profit, but it is best to be a "side" income. I mean fuark imagine it being your only income and any day you could wake up or come home and be blanket banned. I lost 17 accounts one time while I was on vacation, found out through 17 ban emails. After that they banned once a month, and now honor buddy I read is closing down cause blizzard has begun scanning customers computers beyond the wow process for honorbuddy.
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There's a guy who made around $8m (net profit) running a game on the Michigan and Massachusetts lottery system. tldr a certain type of lottery game had certain points when the $2 lottery tickets were actually mathematically more valuable than the $2 they cost. But to make big money you had to buy hundreds of thousands of tickets. This required him and his wife eventually forming a business and inviting owners of convenience stores to join them. These owners would then let them stand in their store for like 10 hours on the key day in question and print thousands and thousands of tickets in big print runs. He lived in Michigan and eventually the lotto game he was exploiting shut down, but Massachusetts had a similar game. So he started driving the 700 miles to Massachusetts every 4-5 weeks to run the same process there.
The big thing about this process is once they'd do their mass purchases of lotto tickets him and his wife would sit in their house doing 12+ hour sessions for days on end to sort the winning and losing tickets. These were "Cash WinFall" tickets, windfall lotto games you do like a pick 6, 6 wins the big jackpot. If no one picks 6, the jackpot grows and I think like pick 2-5 winners get small sums. However every so often, unlike the Powerball whose jackpot just grows forever, if the Cash WinFall jackpot would get to a certain amount there'd be a "Windfall" day. On that day the numbers are drawn, if no one successfully picked 6 on that day then all of the pick 2-5 winners got a share of the jackpot. This made it so on those days a $2 ticket was mathematically worth more than $2 because you'd get something like a few grand for a pick 5 and decent chunks of change for picks 3 and 4s. So this guy was timing massive buys, as long as he bought enough tickets he'd never lose money on a Windfall day because the tickets were statistically worth more than they cost. The one exception is if someone actually picks 6 on the Windfall day, in that case he loses everything because there's no "Windfall" to the lower pick winners. That happened I think twice to him, but he was making so much money he was able to earn his way back to green.
The company he set up to run his lottery exploit made around $20m over the span of time he did it, and he netted around $8m after taxes and splitting winnings with other shareholders in the company.
It's not a bad scheme money wise, but remember his actual "job" involved standing at a lottery machine 700 miles from his house and printing tickets for 10+ hours at a time, then going home and manually sorting through thousands of tickets in endless shifts that would last for like a week after a big drawing.
The big thing about this process is once they'd do their mass purchases of lotto tickets him and his wife would sit in their house doing 12+ hour sessions for days on end to sort the winning and losing tickets. These were "Cash WinFall" tickets, windfall lotto games you do like a pick 6, 6 wins the big jackpot. If no one picks 6, the jackpot grows and I think like pick 2-5 winners get small sums. However every so often, unlike the Powerball whose jackpot just grows forever, if the Cash WinFall jackpot would get to a certain amount there'd be a "Windfall" day. On that day the numbers are drawn, if no one successfully picked 6 on that day then all of the pick 2-5 winners got a share of the jackpot. This made it so on those days a $2 ticket was mathematically worth more than $2 because you'd get something like a few grand for a pick 5 and decent chunks of change for picks 3 and 4s. So this guy was timing massive buys, as long as he bought enough tickets he'd never lose money on a Windfall day because the tickets were statistically worth more than they cost. The one exception is if someone actually picks 6 on the Windfall day, in that case he loses everything because there's no "Windfall" to the lower pick winners. That happened I think twice to him, but he was making so much money he was able to earn his way back to green.
The company he set up to run his lottery exploit made around $20m over the span of time he did it, and he netted around $8m after taxes and splitting winnings with other shareholders in the company.
It's not a bad scheme money wise, but remember his actual "job" involved standing at a lottery machine 700 miles from his house and printing tickets for 10+ hours at a time, then going home and manually sorting through thousands of tickets in endless shifts that would last for like a week after a big drawing.
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The big thing to remember about scumbag income is there's nothing wrong with earning it but there's major stuff wrong with bragging about it. I come from a real poor area and had a cousin I didn't know too well but he made a lot of money cooking meth and selling to other white trash people. Lot of money meaning $200-300k which for him was a lot since he's never earned more than like $10k in a year at a legitimate job. I won't judge that he made money that way, obviously it's illegal (and he did get caught, he also wasted all the money on nonsense), but like you can't brag about it. Everyone knows if you're trashbag you can make money in trashbag ways, it's a reality, not something to be celebrated.
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Evernothing
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Kuro
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Probably going to try this out. Agnarr opening was pretty dang fun until the premade group collapsed in a heap within 30 hours. Managed to make it the rest of the way up with folks in Faceless helping to form ramshackle groups out of the remnants of other leveling teams where members had just disappeared. Between the people going to sleep and never coming back and mum being hospitalized the next week I lost pretty much all momentum on that go.
Ravanta
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Deybreak games would likely never do that, but it wouldn't stop RMT. You would just see posts of people buying/selling platinum or items on that server instead of krono/items.
Deybreak would never make a server where people couldn't CONSUME krono. They are a lot better off the more people actually consume the krono.
Deybreak would never make a server where people couldn't CONSUME krono. They are a lot better off the more people actually consume the krono.
Lumi
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I made around 5,000ish in just the first 2 months on Agnarr and never got so much as a warning. Pretty ez to make some serious cash early on. Most of it wasn't even from playing the game, just flipping krono to plat and selling plat.
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