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Xevy

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He pops in the teek faceless discord from time to time. But I think its probably more what Xevy said, especially about this forum. As its gotten ridiculously more political, used to be pretty confined to general section , but slowly leaking into the game sections of the forums. Where I think the only thing that matters is whether a game is fun and worth the money, I could care less who is making it or if there is some kind hidden message in them(if you let such messages bother or effect your way of thinking, I feel bad for you).
It's happening again. :(
 

Cinge

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When I was growing up, gaming was being fucked with by fundamentalist karens and their religious agenda. Now its progressive bullshit. I assume I will live to see some new wave of retarded in the future push their infectious garbage in.

Gaming has been and probably will always be mired in politics.

This true, its always been there to an extent. If it pushes too hard it can completely derail from the game. But little snippets here and there I can easily ignore if the other 95% of the game is fun. A lot of open world RPGs can have things like this. I prefer zero religious or political crap in my game, any activist agenda at all. Sure some game worlds are built around things like that, and its usually fine if handled correctly(like pushing multiple sides, or say the game is all about pure fanaticism from the character or characters and fits the story theme). And censorship is bad all around in a game, unless its a game focused on children.

I mean more in turms of this forum, and just look at the start of this thread how many were instant no because its secrets and what he is in RL. With zero knowledge of the game. Now if you have bad experience with him on some previous development he did, or the p99 guy did(think both are working on this) that's fine, or even DBG.

Edit : I actually agree with what mrniceguy said above, that kind of stuff is dumb and its honest criticism. First time for everything. But that is censorship, and I covered that and keeping religion out of games unless it fits the context.
 
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rolien

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Nah i remember what Yerm is talking about. It just wasn't the same thing at all. There was calls for censorship, but it wasn't nearly as impactful or on the scale the modern woke shit is.

Look at areas they were successful like MTG removing the pentagram from Unholy strength art vs what that game has now Black Aragorn, full on banning cards like Jihad and trying erase them from history. There was no "religious fundamentalist Karen's" Trying to co-opt the game to be about Jesus, but there is a bunch of woke retards co-opting the game and making it Woke.
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Na bro the religious nutjobs never attacked gaming... Let's see how religion was treating pokemon.




Let's also not forget the fucking brilliant minds that thought Doom was the leading factor for the Columbine shooting, which then got turned into VIDEO GAMES MAKE PEOPLE VIOLENT!

Was it as bad as the woke shit? No it wasn't because video games started becoming really popular during the same time as things started to get much more liberal (before they went totally bat shit crazy). The point is it existed and it was pretty heavy.
 
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The main difference between the moral panic of the late 90s/early 00s was that the content creators were aligned against the censors and rightly ridiculed them. In the modern era, the call is coming from inside the house.
 
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Mrniceguy

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There is also the egregious double standards.

4th of July is "Scorched Sky." Keep your politics out of gaming
Easter is "Stomples Day." Keep your politics out of gaming
Pride month is just Pride month. Why are you so offended about us sticking our politics in gaming chud.

I mean more in turms of this forum, and just look at the start of this thread how many were instant no because its secrets and what he is in RL. With zero knowledge of the game. Now if you have bad experience with him on some previous development he did, or the p99 guy did(think both are working on this) that's fine, or even DBG.

Stop with the bullshit nobody that know Secrets is a tranny hasn't played EQ with him or knows him from some other EQEMU server he made.
 
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rolien

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There is also the egregious double standards.

4th of July is "Scorched Sky." Keep your politics out of gaming
Easter is "Stomples Day." Keep your politics out of gaming
Pride month is just Pride month. Why are you so offended about us sticking our politics in gaming chud.
I mean you're 100% right.
But also you can't exactly have real world holidays in a fantasy, renaming the holidays is proper so they are in the game and can be celebrated.

But the LGBTBBQLMAO+?! people are self absorbed so they need everything to be about them that's why pride month is pride month.
Still not sure why they call it pride month, women take dicks constantly and the majority of them aren't out bragging about it like it's something special, but suddenly a dude takes a dick up the ass and it's something to be proud of.
 

yerm

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I mean you're 100% right.
But also you can't exactly have real world holidays in a fantasy, renaming the holidays is proper so they are in the game and can be celebrated.

But the LGBTBBQLMAO+?! people are self absorbed so they need everything to be about them that's why pride month is pride month.
Still not sure why they call it pride month, women take dicks constantly and the majority of them aren't out bragging about it like it's something special, but suddenly a dude takes a dick up the ass and it's something to be proud of.
You have some of the most severe autism out of the many severely autistic posters around here and you have apparently locked in or whatever the word for autistic fixation is... on gay shit.

Stop.

Change the subject.
 
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rolien

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You have some of the most severe autism out of the many severely autistic posters around here and you have apparently locked in or whatever the word for autistic fixation is... on gay shit.

Stop.

Change the subject.
Sorry to offend you
 
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Burren

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What’s with all the faggotry in this thread? Has anyone played it? I’m very tempted.
2-3 retarded autists and then the rest of us adults actually having a discussion. Yes, people have played it.
 
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Kirun

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All the pay piggies in this thread gobbling up their slop are why we'll soon have $100 video games. Keep eating, piglets!
 
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Regime

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He's alive elsewhere. He's also a serviceman in the Navy I think, so he may be busy. He posted in another discord a week and a half ago. I'm pretty sure he just doesn't want to be tied to this place.
Some asshole was trying to dox him and his family over pixels.

It’s completely understandable why he’s like fuck this I’m out.
 
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Cinge

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Honestly, watching kirun spaz out that my 20 bucks is going to make the gaming market go to $100game just makes me want to buy it more. But alas no real desire yet. I can see myself trying it eventually, for 20 bucks and a couple weeks of fun, not a bad deal. I have zero plans to sub unless some miracle happens and it turns into something amazing. But like antony says, something like this, give it a little time to cook first.
 

Xevy

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I will say with the economy being low priority and krono not existing, it really is a "jump in when you think it's right" type of game. There's no urge to start at the same time as everyone else as there's no real competition or resource hoarding like traditional EQ TLP starts. I mean maybe they'll have early events or titles (almost 100% they will), but as long as they don't give out some sort of BIS utility toy or something during these you can absolutely just wait until it looks ripe.

That said, that's bad for business. If there's no reason for people to start early you could really start with a lower population than you want and not give off the healthy game vibes you're looking to project. It does happen with 95% of games where they blow up on launch with 500k players then they hit a steady 10k for the rest of their life, even successful ones and everyone just goes "WHAT HAPPENED??!?!" when reality you're almost always going to lose the vast majority of players after new release hype. But if you don't have the new release hype are you just going to be birthed into a lower population, but steady population? That with the sub fee I don't know. They're really going to have to hype up the initial launch with FOMO shit or a lot of people will wait for this to cook while DPG probably says "No, that's not enough money" and cans it before it can.
 
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Kaines

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I will say with the economy being low priority and krono not existing, it really is a "jump in when you think it's right" type of game. There's no urge to start at the same time as everyone else as there's no real competition or resource hoarding like traditional EQ TLP starts. I mean maybe they'll have early events or titles (almost 100% they will), but as long as they don't give out some sort of BIS utility toy or something during these you can absolutely just wait until it looks ripe.

That said, that's bad for business. If there's no reason for people to start early you could really start with a lower population than you want and not give off the healthy game vibes you're looking to project. It does happen with 95% of games where they blow up on launch with 500k players then they hit a steady 10k for the rest of their life, even successful ones and everyone just goes "WHAT HAPPENED??!?!" when reality you're almost always going to lose the vast majority of players after new release hype. But if you don't have the new release hype are you just going to be birthed into a lower population, but steady population? That with the sub fee I don't know. They're really going to have to hype up the initial launch with FOMO shit or a lot of people will wait for this to cook while DPG probably says "No, that's not enough money" and cans it before it can.
They are already planning on 6 US servers and 2 EU servers for launch. Tell me the last time a TLP did those numbers.
 
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Mrniceguy

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They are already planning on 6 US servers and 2 EU servers for launch. Tell me the last time a TLP did those numbers.

Extreme levels of incompetence. They haven't stress tested yet. Either game suffers from massive performance issues that they have no intention on fixing or Legends need to be more popular than EQ was in 2001 for that to make sense.
 
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Kaines

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Extreme levels of incompetence. They haven't stress tested yet. Either game suffers from massive performance issues that they have no intention on fixing or Legends need to be more popular than EQ was in 2001 for that to make sense.
Extreme levels of cope here. Considering the closed beta isn't even running on DBG hardware yet and there have been no performance issues.
 
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