Sorry, I wasn't trying to trigger you or whatever. You said you weren't sure if OGC competed in classic so I posted a log of us losing the first contested mob on Phinny.I joined during kunark.
Not really sure what that SS proves? So if i a guild goes for soemthing in OW at any point that means they automatically race and try hard on expansion launches?
i asked some of the OGC leadership that were there from launch. They responded saying there wasn't really ever a care of being first in Classic-Kunark, we were just trying to finish the expansion like any other guild and Velious we only cared about getting in to ST, which is basically my memory of things. The care for being first and attempts at racing launches didn't start until Luclin.
Whoever you talked to about it lied to save face because of how bad we did. OGC wanted to compete from the get go. However, we realized about 3 days into launch that we didn't have enough competent people at the core to do so. Before the TL core from Ragefire merged (usurped?) with Cascade, OGC was the premier forum warrior open recruit guild.. They even had some of that TL core in their ranks before the Cascade->AoS change, because those dudes didn't think there would be a 'TL' on Phinny.
Not trying to pick a beef or whatever cause it's years old drama and I don't even fuck with TLPs anymore.. but we absolutely were planning on competing in Classic and Velious (I wasn't around for Kunark so I can't speak to that expac). We just weren't that good as a guild.