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Animosity

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You can replace Ragebringer in Velious. Vulak MH and Tunare OH outparsed it.
 
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Chanur

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Sure but I'm not going to mention the haste because a Monk could get that on a different piece of gear too.

Same as I don't consider the monk epic clicky because presumably the Rogue is going to have spell haste anyways.
Pretty sure on TLP's those monk delays are with the epic haste figured.
 

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Is this not accurate anymore?

It is accurate but those values are without epic. With epic it becomes 23/26.

The monk epic literally changes the delay, not including the clicky haste. At least, that's what I've always understood it as. It would explain how the iksar can lose their +1 extra delay. This is also how p99 describes the epic affecting damage and delay (albeit with the old values, of course)

But fists do not get damage bonus so on motm mobs that can really change things if just using fists.
 
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Chanur

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No, having epic "gloves" on essentially changes the dmg/dly of a monk with no weapons, regardless of any buffs

Sorry I guess I am forgetting something. I don't see damage or delay on here.

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Also people keep saying they Rangers are pretty good. I know they can group tank in classic. How are they dps wise in kunark and velious?
 

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Also people keep saying they Rangers are pretty good. I know they can group tank in classic. How are they dps wise in kunark and velious?
Middle of the pack. They arent good dps until Luclin and then it goes back down come PoP.
 
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Also people keep saying they Rangers are pretty good. I know they can group tank in classic. How are they dps wise in kunark and velious?

Do you need to see your name at the top of the parse? If you don't actually care about that than they're fine. Everyone's fine.
 
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No I just want to get groups and not be a liability on raids.

Rangers are fine in group content and they are not a liability on raids. The old Ranger memes still get repeated but I don't think I've seen anyone express genuine scorn towards them ever. They're not high tier but it also doesn't matter. The community just so doesn't give a fuck.
 

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Rangers are fine in group content and they are not a liability on raids. The old Ranger memes still get repeated but I don't think I've seen anyone express genuine scorn towards them ever. They're not high tier but it also doesn't matter. The community just so doesn't give a fuck.
Probably just sticking with monk.