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I think Barb being Enclave is the most likely suspicion. They’d never let a filthy Canadian into their order since American Purity is their core tenet.
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It gets deeper:
Maybe Barb has been out a while and Claudia is actually Howard and Barb's daughter grown up. Could still be an Enclave operative all grown up and trained by Barb. Something definitely felt off about her and she was ambiguously ethnic.
We're 100% getting Super Mutants vs DeathClaws. Not this season, maybe, but sometime. Sometime.
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For that to work, you'd have to have Claudia grow up THEN get put on cryo in Vault 31. Plus risking her being exposed to FEV? Not saying it is impossible, but that would involve a lot of good plausible writing to make work.
I do think Coop's daughter being grown up is very likely, though. Kids grow up and the longer a show goes on, the harder it becomes to pass the same actor off as a kid.
I do think Coop's daughter being grown up is very likely, though. Kids grow up and the longer a show goes on, the harder it becomes to pass the same actor off as a kid.
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Coop's kid aging out will be a problem, like in all TV shows. Hell, when she answered the door earlier this season, there was some weird artifacting that had me wonder if they didn't digitally alter her height.
It'll be even worse if they go earlier in the timeline to cover New Plague material.
I don't think Claudia is Coop's kid, but I do assume it's all an act and she's actually Enclave.
It'll be even worse if they go earlier in the timeline to cover New Plague material.
I don't think Claudia is Coop's kid, but I do assume it's all an act and she's actually Enclave.
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Yes, maybe that Asian character is the off-spring of white and black parents. Good call.
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Interesting it was an intelligent super mutant that knew The Enclave was behind FEV. Wonder if this will be a previous super mutant character or not, like Marcus
Also interesting the Enclave scientist from
S1 is pre-war and was the shadow figure from the s1 meeting. The episode seems to suggest that Barb is involved with the Enclave but maybe isn’t fully aware of their scope.
My new prediction: Ghoul takes Maximus to Lucky 38 and uses cold fusion to revive AI House (I think the theory that the strip is irradiated because the Lucky 38 reactor melted down is a solid one). Ghoul needs House to help find the Enclave after he realizes his family isn’t in the corporate vault. Season will end with a stinger/cliffhanger showing Janey Howard is grown up and working for The Enclave (like Father in Fallout4)
Also interesting the Enclave scientist from
S1 is pre-war and was the shadow figure from the s1 meeting. The episode seems to suggest that Barb is involved with the Enclave but maybe isn’t fully aware of their scope.
My new prediction: Ghoul takes Maximus to Lucky 38 and uses cold fusion to revive AI House (I think the theory that the strip is irradiated because the Lucky 38 reactor melted down is a solid one). Ghoul needs House to help find the Enclave after he realizes his family isn’t in the corporate vault. Season will end with a stinger/cliffhanger showing Janey Howard is grown up and working for The Enclave (like Father in Fallout4)
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I hate The Man Behind the Curtain.
Obviously, that actor does well with parts where his alignment is in question, and he was a big actor for his screen time up to this point, but there was nothing - NOTHING - that suggested he was someone in a position of power in the footage so far. Nor is there any rational reason for his actions back in Season 1 now.
Hell, unless he's clones, this is the hackiest of retcons I've seen in TV in years. Then again, we've already seen them retconning things even from S1 with Shady Sands - now the nuke is simultaneous with the Fall of Shady Sands, and don't question who would have put up the billboard in that season.
Also, the Ghoul's setup was unbelievably clunky. He couldn't threaten anyone with a gun to bring a vial to him, or cut him down? And even if no one would help him, no one rushed to rob him / grab the stuff from the ground either?
Obviously, that actor does well with parts where his alignment is in question, and he was a big actor for his screen time up to this point, but there was nothing - NOTHING - that suggested he was someone in a position of power in the footage so far. Nor is there any rational reason for his actions back in Season 1 now.
Hell, unless he's clones, this is the hackiest of retcons I've seen in TV in years. Then again, we've already seen them retconning things even from S1 with Shady Sands - now the nuke is simultaneous with the Fall of Shady Sands, and don't question who would have put up the billboard in that season.
Also, the Ghoul's setup was unbelievably clunky. He couldn't threaten anyone with a gun to bring a vial to him, or cut him down? And even if no one would help him, no one rushed to rob him / grab the stuff from the ground either?
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The episode previous made it apparent the Man Behind The Curtain was real Mr. House. He said "you and I both heard your wife tell him" and it literally cuts to his shadowed silhouette smoking a cigarette.
The S1 scientist guy I think was just a means to show that the Enclave probably has similiar time-gappers like Vaulters and definitely sets it up for a Barbara and/or Janey Enclave lineup.
The S1 scientist guy I think was just a means to show that the Enclave probably has similiar time-gappers like Vaulters and definitely sets it up for a Barbara and/or Janey Enclave lineup.
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Apparently Lost references have aged out: The Man Behind the Curtain (Lost) - Wikipedia was the first episode to have flashbacks for Michael Emerson's character.
(Fun fact: Jon Gries - the NCR Ranger who gets mind-chipped here - was also in that Lost episode as Emerson's dad.)
The point remains - there is no in-universe reason why Autistic Scientist Dork would be the one tapped to give Barb threats, nor any obvious reason why he would be frozen / given a longevity formula to do scut work like weighing puppies centuries later.
(Fun fact: Jon Gries - the NCR Ranger who gets mind-chipped here - was also in that Lost episode as Emerson's dad.)
The point remains - there is no in-universe reason why Autistic Scientist Dork would be the one tapped to give Barb threats, nor any obvious reason why he would be frozen / given a longevity formula to do scut work like weighing puppies centuries later.
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I never watched Lost, so that is why the reference didn't work lol
I'm sure there is a perfectly in-universe reason why he was picked. He may have already been working at Vault Tec and clearly he had more duties than the dog program, given his lab had the cold fusion module.
I'm sure there is a perfectly in-universe reason why he was picked. He may have already been working at Vault Tec and clearly he had more duties than the dog program, given his lab had the cold fusion module.
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He was also the werewolf in The Monster Squad, and I think he played a werewolf vampire monster man in Fright Night 2.