Final Fantasy XIV (Guide in first post)

I'm glad they didn't fix it.. the community adapted the class into something great. They weren't overpowered either in the sense that if they did take hits it was bad news.

I'm sad that they nerfed Red Mage tanking though, and now Rune Fencer basically has a lot of the stuff that RDM tanks did back then.

There were RDM tanks? I quit around the time TBC came out, but I don't remember them tanking prior to that.

Noodleface_sl said:

There were RDM tanks? I quit around the time TBC came out, but I don't remember them tanking prior to that.

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Yeah. I don't remember when they became vogue exactly, but people figured out that stuff like Sleep/Sleep II/Dispel generated a lot of enmity. Combined with RDM's spells/abilities like Stoneskin, Refresh, Phalanx, Cure line, and Convert, their access to -Physical Damage Taken and -Magic Damage Taken gear, and Utsusemi from subbing NIN, they made good defensive tanks. When SE increased the level from 75 to 80 they nerfed the enmity generation of those abilities, though, and even by then damage dealing tanks were taking over. The current team is finally going to adjust the enmity system in general, which has been needed for a long time.

I was never a fan of RDM tanking, probably because I had a pretty decked out PLD with an Aegis but I did enjoy my RDM a lot as a caster. Really got into the min/maxing of enfeebles and nuking. Fastcast was just an absolutely amazing trait with all the bonused out gear also. I think the thing I miss most from FFXI are the classes so I'm happy to see them talk about introducing more.

Just got an invite, apparently all Alpha testers automatically get in phase 1.

Noodleface_sl said:

I'm glad they didn't fix it.. the community adapted the class into something great. They weren't overpowered either in the sense that if they did take hits it was bad news.

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Without a doubt, learning how to blink tank effectively was no small feat. With a death penalty, the learning curve could be painful.

I may have missed it, but when exactly do the servers come up?

kemuel_sl said:

I may have missed it, but when exactly do the servers come up?

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The 25th

kemuel_sl said:

I may have missed it, but when exactly do the servers come up?

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Hopefully I'm allowed to post this bit from the beta boards!:

February 25, 2013, from 1:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m. (PST)
February 25, 2013, from 4:00 a.m. to February 26, 2013 2:00 a.m. (EST)
February 25, 2013, from 9:00 a.m. to February 26, 2013 7:00 a.m. (GMT)

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Noodleface_sl said:

There were RDM tanks? I quit around the time TBC came out, but I don't remember them tanking prior to that.

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They started to get popular as tanks back in 07, but, I know for sure some people were at least working with the idea/trying it back in 06. If you quit a bit before TBC, or cut back, that'd probably explain it.

I miss my BST from FFXI more than most any other class I've played in any game. It was so much fun being able to bomb around (pre-nerf) solo and kill shit that it took whole groups to kill.

I would like to try this now that ARR is happening, but I can't seem to find a date for "release". Have they set one yet?

Have not seen, no do I think one is set, an official release date. I am just hoping that I can get chosen to get into Beta. Never played the first release, from all the bad things I heard about it. But I am looking forward to this release.

Nuday_sl said:

I would like to try this now that ARR is happening, but I can't seem to find a date for "release". Have they set one yet?

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I don't think they know when exactly it will be released yet, since they probably don't want to ship another fuck up. There is an open beta phase scheduled, though, so you can try it then. There's going to be three closed beta phases preceding it, each of varying lengths with a debug period in between.

Bench'd over 7k w/ my i7 960 and dual 7970's. Still not sold on game, looks nice but meh something about it still seems dull as far as gameplay. Beta wasnt very inspiring.

ixian_sl said:

I don't think they know when exactly it will be released yet, since they probably don't want to ship another fuck up. There is an open beta phase scheduled, though, so you can try it then. There's going to be three closed beta phases preceding it, each of varying lengths with a debug period in between.

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Dull in more of the same kind of way?

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Bench'd over 7k w/ my i7 960 and dual 7970's. Still not sold on game, looks nice but meh something about it still seems dull as far as gameplay. Beta wasnt very inspiring.

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Wait what doesn't beta start on the 25th?

http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/02...d-mobile-apps/


Looks like limited PVP, chocobo as companions in combat, and a new class. The Arcanist is a buffing/debuffing/CC class with pet summoning abilities.