Final Fantasy XIV (Guide in first post)
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Intrinsic
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Maybe it is because I've only played CNJ through the Betas and after doing it to 20 yet again ACN didn't seemthatbad. I mean Aero + Bio and then Ruin it down. Definitely made me miss stone, but once I started chaining stuff that was 2-3 levels higher and doing Aero + Bio + Miasma and then chain Ruin it at least lasted the duration of the DOT. Which is probably a bad thing since stuff was obviously living more than 20 seconds, hah. Also haven't played it in an instance yet, see below.edit: and obviously that is only level 1 - 20 and not group related. I'm comparing strictly to solo'ing CNJ which is all I've done all the other beta weekends.
P.S. My Linkshell is still broken. I can see people get invited and join but /linkshell is a bad command, I can't check the list, or join Duty Finder w/o being disconnected. My character must somehow be stuck in the instance server or something.... who knows.
It really is *that* bad. I've been running parses in instances, and even played perfectly (with extra cross class stuff), you just get demolished DPS wise by people who know what they're doing. And all of this is without considering the horror that a public Arcanist is. Your average pub arcanist makes your average awful pub THM from last phase look like an Archer by comparison - they're that bad.
Was mostly responding to that part, and reiterating how bad they perform in an instance environment. All the outdoor mobs die so quickly (in general) that the biggest sink for any class leveling is just pure travel time.
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I know, mostly just frustrated that my linkshell and instances aren't working despite trying everything I reasonably can to fix it
Woolygimp
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Going to make a character when I get home. I am only interested in the three magic classes and archer.
Can someone please share the differences between them? I understand the Arcanist is a pet class, and that probably interests me the least. I'm kind of concerned about people saying that gear is completely useless for magic users (other than your weapon), so I'm leaning towards archer.
Not a big fan of harry potter wands/pointy hats either, I'd prefer staves or something a bit more manlier. I don't mind healing, but usually prefer offensive dps & crowd control.
It's looking like Thaurmaturge or Archer... do those turn into Black Mages and Bards? I'm still confused on the job system.
Can someone please share the differences between them? I understand the Arcanist is a pet class, and that probably interests me the least. I'm kind of concerned about people saying that gear is completely useless for magic users (other than your weapon), so I'm leaning towards archer.
Not a big fan of harry potter wands/pointy hats either, I'd prefer staves or something a bit more manlier. I don't mind healing, but usually prefer offensive dps & crowd control.
It's looking like Thaurmaturge or Archer... do those turn into Black Mages and Bards? I'm still confused on the job system.
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Hmm my ACN definitely kills a lot faster than CNJ does. Sure Stone does more damage per hit but the pet+ruin is about the same DPS as Stone as far as I can tell, and the dots are quite a lot stronger. I could see it not being good in terms of raw DPS in dungeons and such though, the only aoe is lvl 30(spreads your dots), all the DPS comes from dots which take a while to ramp up which isn't helpful if mobs are dying quickly so yeah. But for soloing I kill shit a lot faster with ACN. Generally what I do is Miasma+Bio+Aero, leave pet on that mob, pull next with Miasma+Bio+Aero+Ruin(once or twice depending on the mob level/health), pull next etc. Pet finishes the mobs while I'm attacking the next one and that maximizes dot output since you don't clip any dot duration this way. Pop Energy Drain whenever it's available(once every minute but at 20 it becomes twice every minute and eventually 3times whenever you get the last trait for aether). I didn't train Thunder because it wasn't needed for soloing, would probably be good for grouping though.
At the very least when comparing to CNJ, it definitely kills noticeably faster, there's no comparison imo, at least once you have Miasma and Carbuncle(it's awful as fuck the first 4levels though and not that good until Miasma). I might level THM to 20 so I can get the 26 instant cast eventually so I'll try to compare the 2. Also need to download a parser, do they parse dots well though? I know DoT ticks merge together, I don't know if it's per target or per player that the merge occurs, would make it hard to parse group DPS if it's per target.
Has anyone had any issues trying to pre-order the game in the last 24 hours. This is beyond irritating. Finally managed to get an e-mail to work for my fiance's account (wound up having to make 4 separate accounts and then got a bad gateway error which bugged out the e-mail). However, when we go to pre-order I'm now getting a fucking invalid credentials message when trying to log into their store site. Thank god I had a legacy account for myself or I would have just said fuck it all together.
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Noodleface
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I pre-ordered through Amazon yesterday or the day before and had 0 problems, as usual with Amazon. I learned around 2002 to never work through SE.
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This actually isn't true at all. In fact, right now CNJ actually does more damage than ACN (i'll explain). For reference on spells available to each class:
Conjurer has:
Aero (175 total potency over 18 seconds)
Thunder (240 total potency over 18 seconds)
Arcanist has
Bio (240 potency over 18 seconds)
Miasma (210 potency over 18 seconds, 270 if it actually lasts all 24 seconds).
Arcanist can use Aero and Thunder as well, but you hit a point in where adding more dots to the mob leads to wasted potency. As a result, the 2 DoT + stronger nuke combination ends up working out better. The part where the CNJ comes out definitively ahead is Cleric Stance though. Cleric Stance adds an extra 10% damage that the ACN doesn't get right now,andleaves the CNJ with 6-7% more intellect on top of it.
edit: Stone nuking also combos way, way better with timed cooldowns like Inner Release and Raging Strikes. Once you factor that aspect in, I'm pretty sure the damage comparison isn't even close.
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While soloing it's hard to waste potency on dots as I explained, since you can just pull another mob and let the dots run their courses. You can definitely use more than 2 dots as an ACN, in fact you should. On the nukes, you do 80 with Ruin and 75 with Gust, that's 155potency nukes, which is better than Stone 1 and worse than Stone 2, however the Gust DPS comes from your pet and as such doesn't actually require casting, which makes a pretty big difference when you need to applying dots. Cleric Stance is definitely a plus, even though the difference is mostly the 10%, as you get a bit more int as an Arcanist than you do Mind as a CNJ. I don't get how having 2 superior dots and equal nukes end up being worse than CNJ though, and it's especially a lot more efficient with the way you can chain pull and let the pet+dots finish stuff while having to stand still to nuke very little in comparison to stone spam.
As for group DPS, is there any parser that parses dots? The 2 I've checked don't seem to parse dots at all(FFXIVAPP and FFXIV Log Rep). They parse the initial hit of Aero and Miasma but that's it, Bio doesn't show anywhere at all and Miasma/Aeros obviously only parse a fraction of their actual DPS. If there's no way to parse dots, I don't really see how you can compare ACN in a group setting efficiently.
As for group DPS, is there any parser that parses dots? The 2 I've checked don't seem to parse dots at all(FFXIVAPP and FFXIV Log Rep). They parse the initial hit of Aero and Miasma but that's it, Bio doesn't show anywhere at all and Miasma/Aeros obviously only parse a fraction of their actual DPS. If there's no way to parse dots, I don't really see how you can compare ACN in a group setting efficiently.
Tredge
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Leveled Gladiator to 15.
Leveling Marauder.
Getting really really bored with the game already. Not sure I can be bothered to log in after 1 day of it.
Save yourself some time. Game is pretty - has a story - gameplay is smooth but completely repetitive. Maybe it gets better over time, I'll try again after beta.
I didnt have high expectations going in so...meh. Pretty much what I expected.
Leveling Marauder.
Getting really really bored with the game already. Not sure I can be bothered to log in after 1 day of it.
Save yourself some time. Game is pretty - has a story - gameplay is smooth but completely repetitive. Maybe it gets better over time, I'll try again after beta.
I didnt have high expectations going in so...meh. Pretty much what I expected.
Sutekh
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The game play and levleing is repetitive, in an MMO? Say it isn't so ...
As someone who usually hates all new games, I've enjoyed myself the past couple days.