Final Fantasy XIV (Guide in first post)
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BFA and Shadowlands both released without any server downtime, the quest just popped. It went largely without a hitch. I believe the 9.1 release was a bit more rocky but that was more due to bad programming/bugs than infrastructure issues.
Koushirou
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Probably could have done it prior to today if you found a window, but looks like it's not going to be open again for some time.
moonarchia
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I sill have my original toon on Gilgamesh, but I doubt I will be playing it any time soon. My main is on Zalera in the Crystal cluster, and I am just doing daily MSQ right now to get my other healers to 80 before EW. Tank jobs can eat a dick. Doubt I ever level those again.
Folanlron
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You can't just sit there and go "Put it on the Cloud" it takes tons of work for games like this too be even considered for cloud processing, Nevermind the fact that the game was designed when Cloud Computing was in it's infancy..
And on the hardware front, nobody has been getting access too semi-conductors for months my company has been offering 8x market value for chips and boards and we keep getting outbid by the fucking BIG 3, they are buying up EVERYTHING right now.
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That has nothing to do with the cloud platform, virtual machines, or real servers: That is just preloading the content and activating it at a specified time. You can also do an instance migration to update your server code on the fly with real physical servers. Which is maybe even easier with a dedicated zone model like in FFXIV.
The big problem with cloud platforms for MMO servers: you need to optimize for latency, because that's what players experience as "lag". And those types of cloud instances are really expensive.
Look at New World: Even Amazon can't make their own platform work really well for that. Meanwhile you can PvP pretty easily in a 24 vs 24 vs 24 setting in FFXIV.
At the same time WoW shits the bed if more than 30 players are active in the same zone. Sometimes it even shits itself when no one else is in the zone, because there are 30 players in the same zone on the same CPU core, making you lag as well.
The scary part: if you are not monitoring for that exact scenario, intermittent lag spikes never make it into your monitoring and reporting, because "on average" latency is good across all instances, and/or over a period of x seconds. Then your Indian CS reps keep telling your customers that the problem must be on their end, or with their ISP. "Have you tried turning it off and on again?"
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Gavinmad
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Folanlron
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Chris
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Got got all the DPS classes to 50, just Tanks left to do now.
S Tier: Ninja, Black Mage, Machinist
Black Mage was so annoying until lv42 then it just clicks, Ninja jutsus are surprisingly engaging and powerful dropping lightning bolts on enemies, Machinist is the king of burst DPS and kiting.
A Tier: Monk, Summoner, Samurai
Monk has a very nice AoE rotation and lots to do on single target. Summoner was the best low level DPS and it's even better at 50 with lots of options for dots, pets or direct damage.
Not played any Samurai other than the intro quest but seems like a better Monk so far, could be S tier depending on what the AoE rotation is like as I haven't used that yet.
B Tier: Bard, Red Mage
Bard gameplay varies over time as you switch between different song cooldowns but Machinist seems to outclass it.
Red Mage is a bunch of fun when you hit the melee finisher, but it's pretty annoying doing the white/black mage build up. It can heal/raise but so can Summoner.
D Tier: Dragoon
Plays like a lv30 class, I don't know what the point of this class is yet, it's a MUCH worse version of Monk/Samurai. Jump animation locks you so you can get trapped in AoE and die.
All the healers are about the same with different strengths and weaknesses I don't care enough to write about. Scholar is the best for new/casual players since it comes free with Summoner.
S Tier: Ninja, Black Mage, Machinist
Black Mage was so annoying until lv42 then it just clicks, Ninja jutsus are surprisingly engaging and powerful dropping lightning bolts on enemies, Machinist is the king of burst DPS and kiting.
A Tier: Monk, Summoner, Samurai
Monk has a very nice AoE rotation and lots to do on single target. Summoner was the best low level DPS and it's even better at 50 with lots of options for dots, pets or direct damage.
Not played any Samurai other than the intro quest but seems like a better Monk so far, could be S tier depending on what the AoE rotation is like as I haven't used that yet.
B Tier: Bard, Red Mage
Bard gameplay varies over time as you switch between different song cooldowns but Machinist seems to outclass it.
Red Mage is a bunch of fun when you hit the melee finisher, but it's pretty annoying doing the white/black mage build up. It can heal/raise but so can Summoner.
D Tier: Dragoon
Plays like a lv30 class, I don't know what the point of this class is yet, it's a MUCH worse version of Monk/Samurai. Jump animation locks you so you can get trapped in AoE and die.
All the healers are about the same with different strengths and weaknesses I don't care enough to write about. Scholar is the best for new/casual players since it comes free with Summoner.
Gavinmad
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Folanlron
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Gavinmad
Mr. Poopybutthole
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It was a joke. We're at least on the same data center, unlike those Gilgamesh punks.
Juvarisx
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Dragoon plays like ass till 70 and is substantially better at 80. I have no idea what abilities they pruned at 50 as I didn't play prior to May but its pretty unacceptable that a class feels so awful at any point. At 80 however it plays like a dream.
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I know, I work on cloud infrastructure all day. The fact remains that it's a good fit since with an MMO you will always be sitting on too much or too little hardware. You can either plan for xpac launch and then sit on a bunch of idle iron the rest of the time, or have big queues and 'congested' servers during patch/xpac releases.
Let's not have lowered expectations of sqex just because they're not other game. Marking certain servers as 'congested' and not allowing people to roll on those servers is a huge failure and they should be embarrassed / shamed for it. I hope some fucking japanese sysadmin committed seppuku for his lack of foresight.
Argarth
On the verandah
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I think I'm missing something. Are you saying that SE should have moved FFXIV to the cloud "regardless" some time ago, because in your view it's the "correct" thing to do, and that would have solved/prevented their current issues?
Without the pandemic, the huge recent influx due to Blizzard shitting the bed, and the world-wide semiconductor shortage... is there any evidence they would even be in this position? Or are you perhaps suggesting that Yoshi P is telling little porky pies about the whole affair? Appreciate it if you could clear that up.
Tarisk
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I definitely wouldn't judge the classes at 50. So many changes between then and even 70 let alone 80. Samurai/RDM will of course be shit cause they START at 50 but become two of the more entertaining classes. Honestly bard being B tier isn't too far off long term though.
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