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Jait
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The cheese is dry, the tomatoes are hothouse and not very vibrant, eggs have no height. And most folks don't like random brown and black bits floating in their food (which is why white pepper is used more often in fine dining), but hey...at least the Basil looks fresh!
I'd still eat it though, don't get me wrong.
I'd still eat it though, don't get me wrong.
No one was endorsing the draft, they were endorsing the idea of only allowing people who had engaged in military service to vote which is the premise presented in the book. Voluntary military service. As a civilian in the ST world you have every single privilege, freedom of speech, freedom to buy and sell property, freedom of religion, etc., except you cannot vote and cannot run for public office. That is theonlydifference. Now if you want to participate, i.e., vote, yeah, you need to sign up, serve your term, and be honorably discharged. But that isn't compulsory. If I want to get a job as a doctor I need to go to med school. Is med school compulsory? No, I can just not go, but then I can't be a doctor. You can choose to serve or choose not to serve. Something being compulsory means you are obligated to do it and do not have a choice. These are opposite things.
rhinohelix
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Tebow H., stop writing about conservative positions. Its a combination of strawman and stupid so wrong it makes my brain hurt.
Jait
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Gave her a neg. Clicked on her negs, and yep, sure enough if you turn off the lights and you say feminism three times she'll open her mouth and shit will spew out.
Last time Trollface posted about it 6 months ago, we got this gem.
Last time Trollface posted about it 6 months ago, we got this gem.
A lot of those 'facts' are merely second order effects.
For instance, more men are homeless because they commit more crimes, have more substance abuse problems and have more serious mental illnesses. Less women are homeless because women have more opportunities for transactional sex in exchange for shelter, which is not exactly a positive for women.
More women initiate divorces because they're more likely to be cheated on, more likely to be mentally or physically abused by their husbands. Not exactly a positive for women.
Women have both a small real pay gap AND a huge gap in lifetime earning potential, mostly due to child bearing. Women's career options and progression are limited by child bearing. You can say "then don't have kids" but society does actually require people to have children in order to sustain itself. Post industrial societies are already close to flat in terms of birth rate, with some going into the negative, so having even less children is probably not ideal. Some manner of equity in how child bearing effects women's careers needs to be established or you won't have intelligent women having kids, which has to have a huge negative impact on the gene pool.
This is also bullshit. The government wasn't paying for anything. Private insurance providers were providing the coverage, at no charge, not the government. Private insurance companies WANTED to provide the coverage, because birth control is cheaper than pregnancy. It was the employers who wanted, for religious/cultural/bullshit reasons, to bar what the private insurance company would pay for.
If your going to critique it helps to know the difference between basil and spinachThe cheese is dry, the tomatoes are hothouse and not very vibrant, eggs have no height. And most folks don't like random brown and black bits floating in their food (which is why white pepper is used more often in fine dining), but hey...at least the Basil looks fresh!
I'd still eat it though, don't get me wrong.
Jait
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Good point. I should have looked at them closer. I just assumed no one would be dumb enough to pair raw spinach with the stems still attached to poorly chopped tomatoes and day old cheese.
But you forgot a picture.
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No one was endorsing the draft, they were endorsing the idea of only allowing people who had engaged in military service to vote which is the premise presented in the book. Voluntary military service. As a civilian in the ST world you have every single privilege, freedom of speech, freedom to buy and sell property, freedom of religion, etc., except you cannot vote and cannot run for public office. That is theonlydifference. Now if you want to participate, i.e., vote, yeah, you need to sign up, serve your term, and be honorably discharged. But that isn't compulsory. If I want to get a job as a doctor I need to go to med school. Is med school compulsory? No, I can just not go, but then I can't be a doctor. You can choose to serve or choose not to serve. Something being compulsory means you are obligated to do it and do not have a choice. These are opposite things.
You are dangerously fucking stupid. Militarism is running this country fucking broke faster than every single other problem COMBINED. Arguing for more militarism at this point is not only baffling, it's downright scary. Whether you engage in wars or not, having a massive military is a tremendous waste of economic resources. On the flip side, a domestic service corps is a commendable (liberal) idea, but again, anything that it could build is really something best left to the market.
Facts are, we live on a planet with 7 billion other people, and we're at war with, from a statistical standpoint, almost none of them. We face no existential threats, despite the rhetoric otherwise. War is not to our economic advantage, nor is it to theirs. Therefore, a military is next to useless. Having your political choices be between one biased military mind and another is NOT a path to peace or economic prosperity.
What I see in this thread is a bunch of armchair conservatives fetishizing military service while not actually rationalizing it with any of the rest of their political philosophy. Basically being giant hypocrites.
I'm discussing the premise of a book, which, as it happens, had a government that was doing fine financially. Though most economies do fine in war time and they happened to be at war. Perhaps you shouldn't conflate the two? I'm obviously not discussing actual politics. I don't do that with random strangers on the internet. My only mention of actual politics was to point out that you said something was "left" and then said the opposite of that thing was "extreme left." Which is a nonsensical statement. Correcting faulty logic is not a debate or even a statement of opinion. Though I would be curious to see a society where the experiment is carried out. I like data, as opposed to spouting things without regard to their factual basis. I share Heinlein's opinion, I think such a society would do well, but without data, it is just an opinion.
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I'm still waiting to see how the magic free market helps hurricane victims or people too poor to patch gaping holes in their buildings, when there's a blood shortage, or a dude lost in the mountains.
I'm not even touching the evidence that an unfettered free market has time and time again entered into a predator/prey relationship with actual people (hint: almost none of them fell on the predator side of the equation); I'm simply wondering how the free markets can help people who've lost everything, or didn't have shit to begin with.
Don't get me wrong. When you distance your view enough, when everything's reduced to nice sanitary numbers, and all entities in the equation act rationally and blah blah blah, completely free market simulations are a wonder to behold.
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