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Arc Raiders looks fine on the surface, maybe even decent, but I can't muster any real excitement for yet another extraction looter shooter. The genre has become exhausting at this point. It feels exactly like what happened with battle royales about 7-8 years ago. Every publisher saw PUBG blow up, and suddenly the market was flooded with carbon copies, each one trying to cash in on the trend. Now we're living through the same cycle with extraction shooters. Tarkov found success by doing something unique, and instead of pushing innovation forward, everyone decided to saturate the hell out of the space with derivative titles. It's not that Arc Raiders is inherently bad, it's that the genre has been milked so aggressively that even solid attempts feel like more of the same.
 
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I don't think I know exactly what an extraction shooter.

I regularly play Helldivers 2. Is that an extraction shooter?

Reddit had this comment on an old thread, but not sure how accurate it is.

It seems the term "extraction shooter" is either new or beginning to gain popularity as I've only recently begun to hear about this genre the last year or two. From the description everyone has given, it sort of sounds like the dark zone in the original The Division game where you go into a zone that has pvp enabled and you can hunt down various NPC enemies for good loot, some being high level bosses, however other players can drop in as well and kill you for the loot. In order to keep the loot you need to get it to an extraction point where a rope is deployed from a helicopter of sorts and the goal is to place you loot on the rope and defend it until a timer counts down. If successful you get to keep to loot when you exit the area, however as soon as you put your loot on the rope every player in the area gets a notification about it. Personally I didn't really like this game mode and didn't play it much. I was excited when I heard there was going to be a new marathon game, however my excitement was extinguished as soon as I learned it was going to be a pvp focused game. I really hoped they would do a reboot of the original story with the multiplayer being an option rather than going the route of what appears to be a potential live service game if it hasnt already been confirmed to be one.
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Arc Raiders looked good, mostly because Tarkov was in a shit state and mostly still is, but Tarkov 1.0 comes out 2 weeks after Arc Raiders so we'll see how it does.

It did look good, but honestly I think 75% of the hype for it was just the thirst for a new/okay extractor that looked like it had legs. TPP games suck generally, but draw a huge Asian audience and the gear/items looked largely uninspired. It was a lot more like The Cycle than people will ever say, but the PVE was much less pervasive unlike The Cycle where your game was 90% fighting mobs and 10% dying to people, usually cheaters.

Arc Raiders/Tarkov/Battlefield6 BR all launching (allegedly) in the same 2 week span is going to be ridiculous. These fucking companies cut their own throats doing this stuff. As soon as some one smart enough goes "Hey, launch a game in January or February" they'll just doom their launches trying to compete against everyone else.

Also Call of Duty is sometime around there, but let's be serious. I can't even name that game.
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I've given up on the new BF or CODs. I just will go back and replay Battlefield 3 or Bad Company 2, or Modern Warfare 2007 or World at War, etc.
 
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INTHEMIDSTOFLIONS said:
I don't think I know exactly what an extraction shooter.

I regularly play Helldivers 2. Is that an extraction shooter
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Helldivers is kind of a PVE extraction shooter when you get right down to it.

Summed up: They're basically PVE or PVE or PVPVE games where you get put into a map where you have various goals/quests/objectives and your progression is tied to your ability to do these things and extract with things that help said progression. The fear of loss can help the games feel exciting, although many of the successful ones will include things that mitigate some of that loss so it doesn't feel like you get stuck in an inescapable situation where you can never progress because you can never or seldom extract.
 
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Kirun said:
Arc Raiders looks fine on the surface, maybe even decent, but I can't muster any real excitement for yet another extraction looter shooter. The genre has become exhausting at this point. It feels exactly like what happened with battle royales about 7-8 years ago. Every publisher saw PUBG blow up, and suddenly the market was flooded with carbon copies, each one trying to cash in on the trend. Now we're living through the same cycle with extraction shooters. Tarkov found success by doing something unique, and instead of pushing innovation forward, everyone decided to saturate the hell out of the space with derivative titles. It's not that Arc Raiders is inherently bad, it's that the genre has been milked so aggressively that even solid attempts feel like more of the same.
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Yet another? How many is there?

• Escape from Tarkov (Battlestate Games) – the genre’s flagship.
• Hunt: Showdown (Crytek) – PvPvE monster hunting with extraction.
• The Cycle: Frontier (YAGER) – sci-fi Tarkov-like (servers shut down in 2023).
• Call of Duty: Warzone 2.0 – DMZ mode (Infinity Ward) – CoD’s take on extraction.
• Tom Clancy’s The Division (Ubisoft) – Dark Zone pioneered extraction mechanics but no one plays it anymore.
• The Day Before (Fntastic, released 2023 but troubled, game sucked and got shut down).
 
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mkopec said:
Yet another? How many is there?

• Escape from Tarkov (Battlestate Games) – the genre’s flagship.
• Hunt: Showdown (Crytek) – PvPvE monster hunting with extraction.
• The Cycle: Frontier (YAGER) – sci-fi Tarkov-like (servers shut down in 2023).
• Call of Duty: Warzone 2.0 – DMZ mode (Infinity Ward) – CoD’s take on extraction.
• Tom Clancy’s The Division (Ubisoft) – Dark Zone pioneered extraction mechanics but no one plays it anymore.
• The Day Before (Fntastic, released 2023 but troubled).
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