Girls who broke your heart thread

Seethe_foh

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Spoilered this shit in case no one else wants to hear me talk to Brad. While what I have to say is directly related to his situation, I understand there are a quite a number of single parents who frequent this thread, so they may find something useful to their situation.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:First off, Internet Lawyer Warning: Although I am a Certified Family Law Specialist in California, I know dick-all about how it works in Texas; your job, if you take my general advice here, is to spend a couple hundred dollars and sit down with an actual Texas attorney, preferably one who specializes in family law, and listen to his/her advice. Even if you cannot afford to hire an attorney, I guarantee you can afford the initial consultation fee, and what you learn during the consultation could very well turn out to be invaluable. Everything that follows is advice I would give to the average Californian who happened to stroll into my office for a consultation. Never substitute what you read on the Internet to actually sitting down with an attorney licensed in your jurisdiction. What I truly hope to accomplish here is to impress upon you the idea that many things in life require the assistance of a professional, and matters of child custody are near the top.

With that said...

Brad, if you are as committed to spending more time with your son as you seem to be, take it from someone who makes a living dealing with exactly what you are going through and please seriously consider the likelihood that you will need to go to court in order to achieve your goal. I am only offering my general advice to you because, as opposed to the untold number of fathers I have seen through my years in practice who only want to increase their custodial time in order to pay less support to their child?s mother, you seem to have your child?s interests at heart.

I know court is a scary concept for a lot of people. There are few guarantees in having to go to court, but it exists for a reason: at its most basic level, when two people can?t agree between themselves how they are going to handle an issue, the court is there as the final arbiter.

It is painfully obvious to me that your ex enjoys controlling everything that matters to you. Between her jerking you around with visitation with your son (e.g., promising you more time than reneging) to that shit with withholding the fucking dog from you, she knows how to push your buttons and she is obviously not shy about bashing them with a hammer.

I seem to recall you mentioning many moons ago that you were afraid to take her back to court because of your concern that your child support obligation would increase. Fair enough. There is always the possibility that your child support could increase. However, I believe Texas follows a similar approach to California in calculating child support. If I am correct, then there is a direct correlation between how often you visit your child and how much you have to pay in child support. In California, the correlation can be so strong that just a few extra nights per month with a child can be the equivalent to the other side earning thousands of dollars more per month than they really make.

Unfortunately, if Texas follows California, child support can be established or modified at any time during the child?s minority. Even if you have an agreement with your ex witnessed by God and notarized by all 9 Supreme Court justices, generally the court has ultimate authority over matters involving your children during their minority, so anything you do to try and take that authority away from the court is considered null and void and is completely unenforceable.

So let?s say you continue kissing your ex?s admittedly nice ass in order to keep her from taking you back to court for support. Guess what? That tactic only works so long as she decides not to take you back to court if she is entitled to more support under the law. Get that promotion you have been pining for? Fucked. Get a new job that pays better? Doubly fucked. The absolute best approach, again, at least in California, to minimize your exposure to sometimes astronomically high support obligations is to maximize the time you have with your child.

The problem here is, the longer you wait to do something, the longer the concept of ?status quo? goes for a reach-around. Put another way, if you settle into a routine with your ex which limits you to alternating weekends, pretty soon that routine is essentially ground into stone and it becomes very difficult to dislodge it. That is why the longer you wait to change a visitation arrangement, the harder it usually becomes to do so. Now, there are always exceptions, of course. Chief among them around these parts are drug and alcohol abuse. But as between two otherwise ?good? parents, it becomes increasingly difficult to convince the court to change what ?has always worked for so many years?. I think you can see the power inherent in such an argument, especially considering most judge?s general reluctance to introduce change into a child?s life.

As stated at the beginning of this freaking novel, the best advice I can give you is to consult with a family law attorney. Not tomorrow, not next week, not when you get all of your intermediate goals handled, but right fucking now. Do not wait. Even if you do not ultimately hire the attorney, they are going to be able to explain how the ?system? works in your jurisdiction so that you can make an informed decision as to whether to do anything about your current situation. Ultimately, you may decide not to rock the boat and continue business as per usual. That is your absolutely your decision and yours alone to make.

If you do decide to proceed, I wish you the very best of luck.

/checks clock. That will be $375.00 in Internet Dollars. The ladies up front will provide you your receipt.
 

Brad2770

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Seethe, I really appreciate your advice.

The text messages have actually been coming in today from my ex. Not going to go into complete detail, but here is the situation.

My ex is depressed about how much she works and what she actually gets paid for this work. She doesnt like how things have changed due to the economy (she works in collections- Certain bonus structures have been adjusted so that the company still makes its money, but it has been made harder for teams to hit bonus because of higher defaults and less people paying on these defaults.) She hates the drive... etc.

She admitted that she would never keep my son from me, even if I stopped paying any support for him, but she said that it made her angry when I stopped paying on her bills. So, she used this as a reason to keep "our" dog from me.

It"s cheaper for me to pay her bills and help with my son. She said she would allow a lot more time with my son and our dog if I would pick back on the bills (paid off in a year anyways). She claims that is all she asks even after they are paid off.

We have both said things we regret, but deep down, we have never done anything that really hurts the other flat out (except for some hurt feelings of affection. Her cheating. Me dumping her for a 19 year old... etc...)

So, I am going to pick up her bills again and ride it out. I will see how it goes. If things get just the tad bit bumpy, I will take your advice and go talk to a professional and get this resolved and on paper from the Courts. I have to see how this goes. I have to give her this chance. If she fails, I will not hesitate to take your"s (and FoH"s) advice.
 

Whyme_foh

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Brad said:
My ex is depressed about how much she works and what she actually gets paid for this work. She doesnt like how things have changed due to the economy (she works in collections- Certain bonus structures have been adjusted so that the company still makes its money, but it has been made harder for teams to hit bonus because of higher defaults and less people paying on these defaults.) She hates the drive... etc.

She admitted that she would never keep my son from me, even if I stopped paying any support for him, but she said that it made her angry when I stopped paying on her bills. So, she used this as a reason to keep "our" dog from me.

It"s cheaper for me to pay her bills and help with my son. She said she would allow a lot more time with my son and our dog if I would pick back on the bills (paid off in a year anyways). She claims that is all she asks even after they are paid off.

We have both said things we regret, but deep down, we have never done anything that really hurts the other flat out (except for some hurt feelings of affection. Her cheating. Me dumping her for a 19 year old... etc...)

So, I am going to pick up her bills again and ride it out. I will see how it goes. If things get just the tad bit bumpy, I will take your advice and go talk to a professional and get this resolved and on paper from the Courts. I have to see how this goes. I have to give her this chance. If she fails, I will not hesitate to take your"s (and FoH"s) advice.
Brad, I think this is a bad move. Admittedly, it"s impossible to know the full scope of your situation with her, but strictly from what you"ve written it seems to me that she is jerking you around. She"s using your child to blackmail you into paying her bills - that"s ludicrous man. Again, this is strictly from a third-party perspective. Yeah, she"s all vulnerable and open now but what if that changes? What if you try to move on, find love and she gets jealous and makes a power play? What the fuck will you do then?

Just because you"re taking her to court doesn"t mean you hate her or never want to see her again - it just means you want to safeguard your visitation rights and make sure that no matter what happens between you and her, you will have concrete rights to see your kid. That"s the smart move man. Listen to Seethe.
 

Gryeyes_foh

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You need to lawyer up as soon as possible. Its an absolutely horrible situation but the alternative is to allow yourself to be blackmailed by someone who obviously is an amoral cunt. A legal confrontation is going to happen eventually its just a matter of how much torture you can endure before it starts.


I feel for you, but you absolutely must get a lawyer.
 

Eomer

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Me said:
New Year"s Eve, well, I"m sure I could have had some luck but I accidentally got so drunk I don"t remember a fucking thing and I"m quite sure I was about as unattractive as could be.
Evidence:
 

Fadaar

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I think I see a brown mark on one of those pool balls. Your friends didn"t tell you everything...
 

Ronaan

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Got nothing to report really.

Still getting along really well with Annie (almost 5 months now), family likes me, my family likes her, spent the holidays together at her parents" place together with her sisters etc., new years eve as well. They know how to party, found out that much already. Had a really great time.

We"re also really into each other still, having lots of fun.
I hope that doesn"t change in the near future. Could go on like this forever.
 

Seethe_foh

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I don"t really see a problem with going the route you"ve discussed, Brad, so long as you make sure it is a two-way street. Please, for the love of all that is good and holy, do not fall into the same trap of paying her bills then accepting her excuses when you ask for more time with your son. You must impress on her that your sacrifice is specifically contingent upon her keeping up her end of the bargain. I would suggest keeping a calendar of all the extra time you have your son. (Oh, and I would suggest NOT allowing your child to make decisions as to how long he stays at your place; as has been stated, children pick up on that shit instantly and it won"t be long before he"s playing the two of you against each other, if he already hasn"t picked up how to do that already. Parents, even separated and divorced parents, need to present a unified front to their children.) The second she reneges, get yo ass in to see a lawyer.

@ Eomer: Man, you do realize you are now going to be part of those chain e-mails we all get with pictures of passed out drunks? Here"s to eternal notoriety, I guess. lol
 

Dabamf_sl

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Brad she"s completely manipulating you into paying her bills. How long have you been separated? Clearly enough time for her to set up on her own. Don"t take that shit and her emotionally whoring herself out for your sympathy. Even her texting you all that stuff is bullshit. She"s trying to make her problems your problems. She divorced you, remember. It"s on her to accept the consequences of that.

And as much as I hate the courts and all the shit my parents went through and the preposterous amount of money they spent on lawyers, sometimes its necessary. Don"t let her call the shots. Don"t be vindictive about it, just seek the time you, and your son, deserve together.
 

Gryeyes_foh

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What kind of a person extorts someone using their children as leverage? Is this the type of person you believe will "honor" her agreements? Pay my bills or you cant see your dog or son?

What kind of mother wouldn"t want the father to spend as much time as is feasible with their child? She will punish you and her child for her having to support herself? You cant make arrangements with people like that.
The only question is how much pain and money are you willing to shed on top of the lawyer that guaranteed you will eventually have to procure.

Your son is not a commodity to be bargained for. Visitation rights are not tied to child support. She is harming you and your child for money.
 

The Foler_sl

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Just out of curiosity I decided to check out those two websites, cupid and fishinsea or whatever it is. I dont know what everyone"s standards are but 99.87% of the women on those sites are WAY below mine.
 

Badabidi_sl

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Foler said:
Just out of curiosity I decided to check out those two websites, cupid and fishinsea or whatever it is. I dont know what everyone"s standards are but 99.87% of the women on those sites are WAY below mine.
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Brad2770

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And that"s why they"re on the internet...
I dont know, Man. But I have been talking to this chick over at POF. I enjoy talking to her, almost like I am talking to one of the guys. She says she is one of those women that wont get mad if I leave the seat up after I piss, agrees with me that the beer can couch, I made in my garage, would actually be a popular item on Ebay and understands that I have 9 pornsites in my URL drop down bar before Google is even selectable.

I think I"m starting to like her.
 

Ancallagon

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If it talks like a duck, walks like a duck, and looks -- especially looks -- like a duck, it"s probably...

...yeah.
 
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I"ve missed ya FoH,

Would usually trust my instincts on something like this but my dad"s death has thrown them out of whack... so i"ll pose the question to you fuckers.

There"s a chick in all my classes that hits me up regularly via texts/facebook... i guess just to chat or whatever. we hang out because we"re both in a new place and both smoke. Most of the time when she hits me up though, its not about smoking, and now that i"ve been on holiday break in a different city hundreds of miles away, she talks to me all the time.

Almost every time we talk on facebook, she tells me immediately that she"s naked. i do not ask if she is or isn"t. Almost every time she hits me up first. Every now and then, she gets drunk and tells me about how she"s on the prowl for pussy but how she can"t give up dick. I have no idea why she volunteered this information.

She"s ultra-liberal... and i mean WAY out in left field and is proud to represent her beliefs personally, which apparently include being nude at any possible moment and being obsessed with sex. She also takes any slight opportunity to tell me all about her political/religious beliefs and her entire life story.

All that being said, we"ve only hung out a handful of times and solely under the pretext of smoking or studying. But most of the time when we"re hanging out she talks about sex or politics. The one time I asked her to do something aside from smoking and not class related, she said she had other plans, which I believe since I called her like an hour before the event I was asking her to attend with me. She"s never come on to me that I could say, and I"m pretty sure I"d know if a girl like her was coming on to me. But I was only at her place for maybe 30-35 minutes at a time any time i was there. She"s never been to mine, because I"ve never invited her.

I don"t want this one to get weird on me, because the last hookup with someone at my school ended in disaster, and I don"t need this shit following me around. If it weren"t for this simple fact, I wouldn"t give two shits. Normally, I"d pop my cawk out and start playing a mean air guitar with my boner, but the situation prohibits it at the moment. She"s a pretty cool friend to have, and I wouldn"t mind having her as just a friend (especially since she"s my only green hookup), but I also wouldn"t mind plowing her until the sun came up because I get the feeling she"s got valuable experience.

I know from personal experience that it"s common for a girl who sees you solely as a friend to volunteer some of their skankiest information because they aren"t afraid giving you the information will fuck up their chances with you... I also know that some girls are just way open about sex, and that they"d take any opportunity with a dude that"s not the elephant man. And I know that they aren"t the type you"d want to make a girlfriend. But I"m intrigued. And I think it could be fun.

But I don"t want to fuck up my shit at school when I have to deal with this person every day. And there"s something in the back of my mind that tells me I"m missing something. I"m at a weird place in my life. Shit has sucked hard for me lately, and I feel like some unspeakable sex might lighten things up. But my intuition is shot and she"s entered the scene in a very big way at one of the hugest impasses in my life.

I"m picking her up after her flight in a few days and have a blunt waiting. Seems like an opportunity for something.

Thoughts?

PS: She"s about a 6/10... 8/10 if she would work out a bit more.
 
I don"t know that I would go out of my way for someone I feel is a "6/10" or average. If you have feelings for her then by all means pursue them, but if it"s just "ah well I guess I might as well pop that pussy sigh..." then don"t even bother.

From my experience if you have a doubt about a person or how they see you then there"s a reason for that doubt and it almost always comes out in the end.