GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings
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Says this like they wouldn't have found any other excuse or could have trotted any person out and made that same claim.
Kind of like how Theon "killed" Bran and Rickon.
iannis
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Unfortunately the answer to all these questions is, "grrm didnt think this shit through".
He's not Tolkien, he's telling an entirely different sort of story. He thinks episodically and he writes that way too. It's the reason he can't finish the story and the reason he's nearly eager to kill his characters off.
And that's fine, but you'll be disappointed if you expect the ending of the story to be better than BSG or Lost. Don't ask too much of it.
He's not Tolkien, he's telling an entirely different sort of story. He thinks episodically and he writes that way too. It's the reason he can't finish the story and the reason he's nearly eager to kill his characters off.
And that's fine, but you'll be disappointed if you expect the ending of the story to be better than BSG or Lost. Don't ask too much of it.
See, I actually think it's a little different issue than that. I think he has a general idea of who ends up where, but I don't think he has a clue on how to get them there in any sort of coordinated and interesting way. It's almost like he scattered characters in the wind to create drama and force a certain amount of self-reliance on all of the characters, but didn't realize that writing about 15 different plotlines was going to be both difficult and time intensive. Hopefully, GRRM has learned a little bit from the show in that more isn't necessarily better. For example, this whole Aegon storyline seems like turd incarnate and a reflection of "filling Tyrion's time" while Dany is off on the plains.
hodj
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I dunno man. The ending of Lost was pretty disappointing to me.
Not a high bar to cross there, tbh.
That's pretty much the same problem that Robert Jordan had, actually.
He had all these plotlines, all these characters spread out all over his world, and he got stuck trying to reel it all back in. Its like once you lay enough threads down, the story just starts growing of its own will, and the author has to battle with themselves to prune that shit back and get it on track for completion.
Eomer
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That's the point he was making. The writers of Lost ended up with such a convoluted, fucked up story with so many different elements that it was basically impossible to bring them all to a satisfying, logical conclusion. I've long since resigned myself to a similar thing happening with GOT, although I do hold some optimism that it won't be nearly as bed-shittingly bad as Lost's ending was. BSG's ending was rushed, but ultimately wasn't all that bad. Lost though? That was horrifically bad, given how good the start of the show was. BSG was super uneven throughout, so the mediocre ending wasn't nearly as jarring.hodj_sl said:
Abefroman
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Lost was a product of the internet. I do believe they had a long term plan but changed that shit because theories were everywhere during the first season that guessed what was happening. They kept trying to be more clever then millions of fans and fucking failed hard. I remember interviews where the creators specifically said they weren't dead and weren't in purgatory. Instead of just refusing to confirm or deny they decided to start changing shit and threw out a fucking ton of bullshit.
Gavinmad
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I still thought BSG was going to give me some ultimate payoff for the opera house flashbacks right up until the 2nd to last episode.
That show fell off the rails the last couple seasons but I still was generally entertained by it until the last episode which just made me upset.
That show fell off the rails the last couple seasons but I still was generally entertained by it until the last episode which just made me upset.
Sterling
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The first half the finale was actually pretty awesome. The 2nd half was incredibly disappointing.
Gavinmad
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Hey guys lets just rape our way into a stone age hunter-gatherer culture and pretend our basic understanding of the sciences wouldn't lead to our complete domination of any other group we encounter and jump humanity forward thousands or tens of thousands of years.
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The entire last season was bad. Once they started going offroad with "Earth was populated with Cylons and died in nuclear war! No, actually that wasn't Earth at all, the real Earth is still waiting for us" "Head Six isn't a mental problem, she's a real entity sent by God" "Starbuck is Moses, bringing the wandering 12 Tribes of Israel to the Promised Land (what, did you miss the blatant copy of the bible?)"...
The only bit that was good toward the end was the fact that the entire Resistance on that temporary colony was actually headed by Cylons...