GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

Gavinmad said:

Wouldn't be very hard, you just need to go pick it up from the dirt outside Astapor where she dropped it in plain sight of the entire army.

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Right, forgot about that. They're technically "free men." Whatever, they're still fucked.

kegkilla said:

twice smart guy

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How'd he get outplayed twice, keeping in mind that I don't consider anything that involves magically built teleporting stealth fleets with radar and night vision him being outplayed.

Gavinmad said:

How'd he get outplayed twice, keeping in mind that I don't consider anything that involves magically built teleporting stealth fleets with radar and night vision him being outplayed.

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Although none of that actually exists...I agree he didn't get outplayed twice.

Wasn't Dany the one who wanted Sand Snakes to go back to Dorne to rally their army? Tyrion's bit was planning the Casterly Rock assault. Unless we're counting abandoning the castle and having the Iron Fleet there as 2 separate plays.

kudos said:

To be fair Tyrion did achieve his goal of taking the castle.

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sure, thats like sacrificing your rook to capture a bishop.

It's a fucking travesty that we didn't get a fully nude scene of the sand snake grill.

Chukzombi said:

sure, thats like sacrificing your rook to capture a bishop.

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For real, terrible idea. Remember how their eyes lit up when Tyrion mentioned it and none of them really thought it through? Typical women.

With the Unsullied stranded and the rest of her forces stuck on Dragonstone I don't see how she can accomplish much. All Euron has to do is set up a sea blockade around her island and the Dothraki will start eating each other. Ballistae will take care of the dragons. At least she still has Ser Jorah!

I do think Tyrions play for Casterly Rock was tied to it being his birthright and his saltiness over the fact it was denied to him.

I'm not saying that was the sole purpose of the move but it most definitely had some influence. Otherwise he would have been the first one to highlight the fact that the mines are exhausted. But he convinced Dany it was worth taking by arguing it's importance as a symbol, so there was SOME clouded judgement there.

Think of it, why wouldn't Dany have the unsullied bolster highgarden? She had Olenna there with her and was one of her most important allies, not to mention the plentiful resources of The Reach.

What happened with Euron was necessary in a way, to hamstring Dany. Otherwise she would of just destroyed everything. It also highlights Olennas advice to Dany about listening to men. I think she will make her own decisions now and Tyrion will only be there to offer his council when called upon only.

Talos said:

For real, terrible idea. Remember how their eyes lit up when Tyrion mentioned it and none of them really thought it through? Typical women.

With the Unsullied stranded and the rest of her forces stuck on Dragonstone I don't see how she can accomplish much. All Euron has to do is set up a sea blockade around her island and the Dothraki will start eating each other. Ballistae will take care of the dragons. At least she still has Ser Jorah!

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maybe she will show some emotion about it. we can hope.

Qhue said:

If only someone knew a person that had omniscient powers to see all things...

By the way, do we really know how old Varys is? That whole scene between ancient woman Melisandre and Varys seemed loaded with extra subtext. Is it possible that the whole sacrifice of his genitals by warlocks is true... in that this is how he became a warlock?

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They're from the same city, I think.

That's what I took away from it at least. Dickless and Titless share a heritage, and Dickless knows exactly what sort of trouble she is. He wanted her to just go away, and he wanted to insult her a little bit before she did. And for her part, she really doesn't care about him or his games and made that clear.

Which is why she's trouble to him.

Man you guys are retarded.

Casterly Rock was of significant symbolic importance, but it was also a fortress garrisoning ten thousand soldiers that Tyrion had a secret entrance into. Not attempting to take advantage of that would have been stupid. Nobody could have realistically anticipated Jaime and Cersei being willing to abandon their ancestral home for larger strategic concerns, and even if it had been brought up during a planning meeting I'm sure the response would have been 'Please, they could never move ten thousand infantry from Casterly Rock to Highgarden without Varys getting word of it'.

Varys who no longer has his little birds?

Astr0 is of low cunning, obviously playing chess is not a pastime for him.

Yea Varys powers have been extremely contracted. He no longer sits in the capital with unlimited resources via the crown. He is a sideline player at this point, he still gains intel from a few embedded or second hand sources, but he is by no means the same player he was earlier in the show.

I think his main power now is being an arbitrator and purveyor of knowledge and know how when it comes to Westerosi alliances, rather than being a commander of a vast spy network. Im sure he will gain more little birds as time goes on, but as of right now we cant expect Varys things from Varys anymore.

I wonder if Arya is going to show up in Winterfell soon too. It'll be the super awkward family reunion.