GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

Daezuel

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So basically GRRM was a hack all along. Kings Landing was the Shire, The Iron Throne was The One Ring, Jon leaves Middle-earth Westeros to go to the actual Undying Lands, that dumb Council thing at the end. This series was good when it was about tits and Littlefinger, the rest of it was trash.
 
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I would not blame this failure on GRRM. It looks like he abandoned it before S8 even aired. We know when they followed his material the show was top tier. He has many faults but he does know how to write. It just takes a long ass time.

We may never know the true ending, but in my mind I gotta say this is the 2 buttheads with egos pushing GRRM in a corner and closing their ears. I wouldn't be surprised if GRRM eventually says this isn't the real ending. We might even hear about some bad blood between him & the show runners someday.
 
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I doubt GRRM was married to any particular ending, even if he had some vague ideas in his head. Having his hand forced on a specific ending when he's only halfway into the story leads to shit like this, especially in the hands of hack writers
 
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Daezuel

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So then it's not his fault he didn't end this shit himself? lol Fuck that fat bastard.
 
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I'm mostly just confused why Jon was ressed in the first place.

You can play the 'what if jon wasn't rezzed' game and the number of possibilities are endless. If he stays dead, not only is he not there to rally Dany to join the fight but the expedition beyond the wall (with Jon/Beric/Hound/Jorah/Tormund) never happens. Which means Dany never journeys beyond the wall to rescue him thus the Night King never has the ability to rez a dragon. The same dragon he would need to punch a hole through the wall.
 

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I would not blame this failure on GRRM. It looks like he abandoned it before S8 even aired. We know when they followed his material the show was top tier. He has many faults but he does know how to write. It just takes a long ass time.

We may never know the true ending, but in my mind I gotta say this is the 2 buttheads with egos pushing GRRM in a corner and closing their ears. I wouldn't be surprised if GRRM eventually says this isn't the real ending. We might even hear about some bad blood between him & the show runners someday.

He knows how to write, or is at least capable of delivering some epic shit...but honestly a lot of the last two books were not nearly as top tier as the first 3. If this was his ending, while I agree with Drin (I think it was Drin?) that he probably outlined very broad strokes for them to go off of, the fact that its taking so long for Winds is because he probably knows he doesn't have a satisfying way of tying up all the bs loose ends from books 4/5 into a compelling conclusion. I don't care how good a writer he is in general, he's going to have to pull off some epic shit to make Wheels as King anything utter than complete shit.
 
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What if The Lord of Light really fucking hated this little girl and he set forth all these plans just to make sure she died

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anyways RIP Game of Thrones see you all in The Longest Night thread next year, and all you fuckers who said you will never watch anything GOT/D&D will break that promise

 
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"ok so who the fuck and why the fuck is there a lord of light if he doesn't do anything of significance. what was the point of all these red priestesses? nothing came of that story arch. "

The lord/gods can not be bothered with mundane shit. Basically humans deal with problems humans made. They steeped in when a literal "outsider" to humans became a threat.

Otherwise why should they mingle in humans affairs?

It is a very nice idea for a deity to be honest, and it was well handled.
 
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He is an excellent world builder, but nothing GRRM has written indicates that he is any good at finalizing his own stories. This is the exact same problem Jordan had and why I never even bothered with Game of Thrones after the first book. They get too far up their own asses. Taking away the bad writing of the hacks who took over, the core issue remains that the end point he had just is not good. It is neither shocking or satisfying. Arguably, the whole world has essentially hit the reset button, since King Wheels cannot have an heir and the council will just resume bickering over this shit once he croaks anyhow. Unless GRRM decides to turn Bran into prequels style Palpatine and he is the manipulator behind it all, I cannot see how he makes much more out of his planned ending. Its bland and I am betting he planned to have five chapters about the varieties of roast rat and guard rape involved in the siege to pad it out, knowing him.

I bet he does not bother finishing, since knowing the ending will suck what little surprise and investment his longtime readers have. I get that a guy who looks like Popeye's fat out of work cousin probably has more fun getting Ren Faire stink finger, but not being more involved in the later part of development probably ruined his magnum opus. Not that it matters to him, since it seems like he patterned Barthenon (sp?) after himself. Can't fault the guy for living it up, its just a waste of potential.
 
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Daezuel

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Maybe if GRRM hadn't wasted 2 books going off on tangential stories that no one wanted to read and focused on finishing the story none of this shit would have happened.

Books went to shit, show went to shit, no more shitty books, still shitty show is thankfully over.
 
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Fair enough.

GRRM has said this is his ending tho.
I'm sure Drogon melting the throne was his ending, and Jon taking the black.

The rest is probably just whatever they felt like. Sansa being queen of the north doesn't make much sense in the books, because all the bad shit that gets her there doesn't even happen to Sansa in the books.
 

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Hi, have I reached the remaining two people who live at castle black? Yes, I'd like for you to travel for several weeks to Kings landing to forcibly escort your very good friend and ruler, Jon 'saved your lives a millon times' Snow, back to the deserted wall for eternal punishment. His crime? You see he killed the crazy bitch no one liked. It really offended the eunich army that is leaving soon.

Also, at no point in your solo 3 week ride back North alone with Jon, should you think to turn coat or abandon the wall entirely. Make sure to come in the blacks and best of luck in the freezing abandoned castle with no food or company besides the wildlings. Speaking of the wildlings, they seem to be your only remaining reason to hold the post, so be a good lad and ask them to abandon the castle when convenient.

Hope recovering from the catastrophic losses to the night king is going well.

Thanks,

Tyrion
 
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I'll never understand the "it's been shit ever since end of Season 5" crowd. Certainly there's been some stuff that was rushed and fell off in quality, but pretending everything since the end of season 5 has been bad is just wrong, too.


That shit is solid. I can get some of the complaints from last season even if some were dumb as fuck, because it all still worked as long as we got the payoff in the endgame this season. Which we didn't. Episode 3 Season 8 is where it will always have went permanently to shit for me.

I just assume people mean end of season 6 when they say end of season 5. Season 6 was great.
 
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Daezuel

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Would have enjoyed Drogon turning his fire direclty on Jon, then Jon being impervious to the fire, Drogon bends the knee, Jon mounts Drogon and melts the Unsullied and Dothraki to fucking ash. The end. Send me my check to rewrite the end HBO.
 
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Would have enjoyed Drogon turning his fire direclty on Jon, then Jon being impervious to the fire, Drogon bends the knee, Jon mounts Drogon and melts the Unsullied and Dothraki to fucking ash. The end. Send me my check to rewrite the end HBO.
I would have been able to live with that. way, way better than what we got.
 
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soooo
Winterfell decided to not be part of the 7 kingdoms, thus making it 6 kingdoms, but yet a Stark is the king of the 6 kingdoms. what kinda backwards shit is this.
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The fact greyworm did not instantly execute both Jon and Tyrion is beyond me.

Also, how in the hell did greyworm + friends leave Danny unprotected/guarded for even a non second in the ruins of a freshly conquered city? Much less let anyone, even Jon, get within 20 feet of her with a weapon.

Greyworm should of killed himself in shame after offing jon/tyrion.
 
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