GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

Gunnar_sl said:

What mystery? The quick half line about him not coming back? That was used to justify Mormonts ranging.

Give it up, benjen is gone

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Benjen Stark, Strong Belwas, and Syrio Forel walk into a bar. He orders a drink.

imo the only reason they haven't shown Coldhands is that his face will be a "shock" ala notCat, ergo Coldhands is Benjen. Thats my story and I'm sticking to it!

Saw this yesterday. Interesting breakdown. The surprise for me was that the author of the article says that next season is supposed to be the combination of Feast and Dance, and I thought they would break that up into two seasons just mingle the books like crazy. If that's true no wonder everyone is up in arms about the show catching up to the books so soon...

How Much Source Material Does HBO Have Left to Work With? | FiveThirtyEight

I was kind of thinking the same thing, spronk. Otherwise, they might just be writing the character out of the show altogether.

Derivator_sl said:

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0/10, not bloated and grey/green enough, no gigantic slit in her neck. Would not accept.

Benjen wouldn't be a shock to anyone except us. Some character shown for like 5 minutes in episode 1?

If this season is any indication, if they show a previously on Game of Thrones scene with him in it, you now he's showing up.

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TWoW will be released concurrently with season 5 of the HBO series. Any takers for the opposition?

I don't think it'll happen. Concurrently with Season 6 is more likely, but I'd say next summer/fall is a better bet who knows. How long does it take to edit these things? Does anyone really even know how much he has written so far?

If season 6 is entirely TWoW and they've exhausted all their material from Feast and Dance, then it has to come out before then otherwise what's the point. With the way the show is going though, I wouldn't be surprised if I'm totally wrong.

I don't think there is any chance TWoW releases with season 5. I think he's even given some quotes saying that he's not even close to being done. I wonder if HBO knew it was going to be like this when the show first started, that the book series wasn't going to be completed in the next 7 years. I think if they had their way they would prefer the books to be done by now but they can't do nothing about it now.

The craster scene was the very definition of a filler arc. It's only purpose was to give Jon/Bran actors screen time since absolutely nothing impacted the characters at the end of it. Both Jon and Bran are on the same path they were before Bran gets kidnapped, with the added bonus of Jon knowing Bran is alive.

Vandyn_sl said:

The craster scene was the very definition of a filler arc. It's only purpose was to give Jon/Bran actors screen time since absolutely nothing impacted the characters at the end of it. Both Jon and Bran are on the same path they were before Bran gets kidnapped, with the added bonus of Jon knowing Bran is alive.

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Seriously. After looking at that link with all the remaining chapters, it's looking like they're just going to be trying to stretch things out. I'd guess midway through next season we'll see the end of Bran's currently written chapters, and at that point they'll have to either make up some new shit or start going heavily into Winds of Winter content (if any is written by then). Honestly, I'd say next season will start to see the book and show diverge considerably.

Both are filler to us as book readers, and I guess that's the point of this thread, but my wife was really nervous that Locke was going to kill Jon, but then kill Bran instead, so I think that provided some suspense if you look at it from a non-book lens (I just keep telling her everyone is going to die because after Joffrey she asks anytime someone gets into a precarious situation... seriously she's asked if Tyrion is going die about 7 times now).

You could probably argue that everything is filler between big major plot points from a book readers perspective, but if you are purely show watcher, that was the end of a major new plot with Jon going to unknowingly rescue Bran from the Night's Watch guys at Craster's.

everything with bran these last two episodes was filler. it would have been just as uneventful if they had just kept walking through the snow. the time wasted filming those scenes could have been spent elsewhere. bran's story is boring and so far unimportant. i mean when he docks with the weirwood tree he cant even communicate to anyone, so anything he finds out will be fricking useless.

Yep, the Bran storyline is at least so far better than the books. At least we got something other than endless wandering in the woods.

Slaythe_sl said:

Yeah, but you have to assume he becomes important later on. So, what are the show writers supposed to do? Forget about his character for 3 seasons then show us a post puberty actor everyone has forgotten about?

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well we havent seen lyssa or her tittybaby since season one and people still knew who they were. and in GRRM's world people who have developed stories die before they can reach their goals all the time.

open question, what does anyone think Bran will ever accomplish? for me i chalk it up to the cripple kid having something to do to feel useful but not being really useful at all.

I don't know what Bran will do but I think it will be something more significant than, "I feel bad for cripples so I'll make him important" or whatever it is you are insinuating.