GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

Chanur_sl said:

Ramsey doesn't really have any men that's why. They are Roose's men.

Also I don't believe him. That's Foggy!

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well technically they are the boltons men, roose doesnt do much with them so ramsay is the commander. ramsay fucked over those greyjoy men(with theon's help) and his take no prisoners and flay them alive attitude, makes him a formidable foe. look i am not saying that he will prevail, i was joking, ramsay has shit lineage politically and tommen's rule will not last much longer so when the kingdom falls into chaos a bastard will not be stepping up to the task in the south or the north. it will be a true stark or a true targ or a true mix of the two.

Elurin_sl said:

He's a Bolton about as much as Jon is a Stark. Well, I guess technically slightly more since he's been legitimized.

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Except that bastardy is a completely 100% social construct. If the crown declares that Ramsay is a Bolton, then he's not a Snow, he's a Bolton. He's not a bastard anymore.

Also, Ramsay has his own band of depraved monsters called (never in his hearing) the Bastard's Boys. Maybe he doesn't have them in the show though.

Mist_sl said:

LF definitely sits the Iron Throne at some point, at least for a time, before this is all over. This episode convinced me.

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i also dont think the "young man" littlefinger discussed was lancel. lancel is not a plant as far as i can tell. he has that shit carved on his head and he looks like a little nazi when he is standing around doing nazi shit. whatever littlefinger has planned, its something we havent seen yet.

Mist_sl said:

lol what if the young man was Gendry?

I had assumed the young man was Loras and LF had snuck him out as a favor to Olenna, but I mean, there's no reason it couldn't be Gendry.

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gendry is an unknown and a bastard, his claim to the throne is tenuous at best.

Maester Chuk_sl said:

gendry is an unknown and a bastard, his claim to the throne is tenuous at best.

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He's the only living son of Robert Baratheon. His claim is strong enough that even Stannis could probably be persuaded to back his nephew if he were given a sweet enough offer. Although his status as a bastard in Westeros probably means Stannis is higher than him in the line of succession from Robert, assuming Tommen was declared illegitimate. But as a compromise, at least a Baratheon bastard isn't a Lannister.

Mist_sl said:

He's of the common folk, which would make The High Sparrow more inclined to back his claim, given his whole speech against the elite.

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well, thats true, but i dunno if the sparrows are political. i mean if they have an agenda, they wouldnt give a shit about a baratheon, stark or lannister, they would want some pious dude to be in charge, and they would be more likely to back the high sparrow to take over the throne. just my 2 cents.

what was that thing sansa grabbed off the barrel? was it a knife?

I mean, Roose seems a bit different in the books. He's still a pretty bad man, but he seems kind of embarrassed by how monstrous Ramsay is. Like, he'd tolerate it if his son just had the same depraved vices he does, but instead his son is basically a rabid dog, whom he even suspects of poisoning Roose's legitimate son. But he doesn't really have a choice because Ramsay is his only remaining heir and House Bolton must endure.

TV Roose seemed just about as much of a monster as Ramsay.

Elurin_sl said:

He's a Bolton about as much as Jon is a Stark. Well, I guess technically slightly more since he's been legitimized.

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Ramsey is at least half Bolton while Jon may not have any Stark in him at all.

RAMSAY

Gavinmad_sl said:

RAMSAY

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I really just call him the asshole that needs to die already.

Siddar_sl said:

Ramsey is at least half Bolton while Jon may not have any Stark in him at all.

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Female Stark is still a Stark ;P