GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings
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Dany is naive and makes questionable decisions. Sometimes (almost always) she makes these decisions based on emotion rather than logic/reason. We'll see how these decisions play out in the future, but I personally believe she is an idiot and I hated almost all of her chapters in ADwD.
Grimmlokk
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I mean, unless it wasn't and she swoops in on Drogon with Khal Jhaqo's khalasar and they sweep up all those motherfuckers and she has a bigger and better force than she ever could have otherwise...
Motherfucker is telling a story, shit will go where he wants it to.
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Her decisions aren't good or bad based on whether or not they take her to the seven kingdoms.
After she takes the Unsullied and her freedmen, she couldn't head to the seven kingdoms anyway. She doesn't have a fleet large enough and not enough supplies for a land route. She couldn't have stuck around in Astapor, the slavers certainly aren't going to let her sit there. If she had just stayed in Astapor, the siege of Meereen would have just happened at Astapor except she would had a smaller army and no sellswords on her side.
If they break the siege of Meereen, she will be by far in her best shape yet. With a possible navy, a huge army and a secure base. Oh and BTW the institution of slavery has also been smashed.
khalid
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She mentions (or thinks) at the end of SoS that she will stay in Meereen to learn to rule or something. I can't remember the exact quote.
Actually, looked it up.
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Her purpose isnt to become abraham lincoln. Once she sacked astapor she coild have used their wealth and slaves to buy herself a navy. Or just threaten the other cities til they simply pay her to go away, ya know like xaro tried to do before the siege on mereen.
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She does what she was written to do. If GRRM wants her to have a heart and hate slavery she will have a heart and hate slavery. I'm sure he'd LIKE to check with Astrocreep before sending every individual story bit off to his editors, but that's just not feasible...alas. Man that would have been a sweet story where her dragons grow in 2 chapters and she burns Westeros to the ground in under 100 pages though!
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Yeah, the 13 ships would really have carried her entire army to the 7 kingdoms no problem! They talk about it, its very clear the 13 ships isn't nearly enough. Hell, thats 600+ Unsullied per boat, let alone everyone else.
edited: no reason for me to be a jerk
Chukzombi
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An entire city's wealth of riches and slaves could have bought her the ships needed, the deal with xaro was the right idea but it was made because they rightfully saw dany as weak, if she had kept to her plan of regaining the iron throne she would have had a much stronger position to bargain from. And grimlokk are you honestly bitching that the storyline being shorter is a bad thing?
Yes he wrote her to be a moron and she's being a moron, and people dislike morons, what's the issue?
Had MMD "heal" Drogo, stuck around when her Khal died, trusted Jorah, trusted Plumm, trusted warlocks, left Astapor in "safe hands", let her baby slaying dragon roam free, drinking wine from strangers, etc.
Because some decisions have unintentional and unforeseeable good consequences doesn't make them any less retarded, just means the plot armour is even thicker.
And no, no other character has a spaz list like hers or are completely void of self awareness except maybe Cersei.
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Off the top of my head I can think of multiple characters that have made as equally bad decisions that are still alive and I'm sure you like them significantly more than her.
A dwarf fighting in a war, admitting to killing a king when he didn't, shooting his father and his lover, hating his brother that rescued him - Tyrion!
Astro go to that stupid ass thread if you want to talk about stupid ass cars you stupid ass old fuck.
A dwarf fighting in a war, admitting to killing a king when he didn't, shooting his father and his lover, hating his brother that rescued him - Tyrion!
Astro go to that stupid ass thread if you want to talk about stupid ass cars you stupid ass old fuck.
Yeah your list is like quarter the size and not nearly as potent, actually it's pretty ridiculous, killing his father whilst en-route to escape? So what?
Chukzombi
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oh which thread is that? grim and i are the only ones who watch that show so it was only a question to him and if he answers its done. you can still continue your flash vs superman conversations in the meantime.
Seriously? Tyrion killing Tywin is a huge achievement of will on the part of Tyrion I think. It is a huge turning point for his character to be able to look this man who has been horrible to him his whole life, yet still desired his approval and so on. I think it is a huge thing on a personal level, even if no one else knows it happens.
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Sorry but Tyrion is probably the dumbest fucking character in the book. If he acted the same as Hodor did his outcome would have been significantly better and had a better life, instead of purposely sabotages himself and ruins his life. If you really want me to expand on all the STUPID fucking shit he did, well sure.
Fucked a peasant as a member of one of the richest family in the world, openly hated his sister; the queen, completely destroyed his family name by continually getting drunk and sleeping with prostitutes when he knew his father hated it, slapped the would-be king, slapped the king, tried to black mail the queen, specifically disobeyed his father by bringing the prostitute to kings landing, trusted varys, got on literally everyones bad side in kings landing, refuses orders to go in the cabin of the boat during a storm falls off and almost dies, wanders off from the party that's escorting him to freedom and gets fucking captured by Jorah Mormont and mmmaaaaanny many more.
But since he's a dude I'm sure you love him, #1 member of the he-man woman hater club.
Fucked a peasant as a member of one of the richest family in the world, openly hated his sister; the queen, completely destroyed his family name by continually getting drunk and sleeping with prostitutes when he knew his father hated it, slapped the would-be king, slapped the king, tried to black mail the queen, specifically disobeyed his father by bringing the prostitute to kings landing, trusted varys, got on literally everyones bad side in kings landing, refuses orders to go in the cabin of the boat during a storm falls off and almost dies, wanders off from the party that's escorting him to freedom and gets fucking captured by Jorah Mormont and mmmaaaaanny many more.
But since he's a dude I'm sure you love him, #1 member of the he-man woman hater club.
Chukzombi
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arrogant and stupid are two different things. Tyrion didnt slap joffrey because he was herp derping and didnt know who he was. he knows goddamned well who joffrey is, the thing is Tyrion knows who HE is. tyrion is a lannister and lannisters in this story damned well do whatever the fuck they want. tyrions problem is he is willful and doesnt know when hes gone too far. to him there is no such thing as too far.