Gun control

MSNBC: If your kid plays HALO make sure he doesnt have a problem

Chuck Todd on Hardball:

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"If your kid, for three hours, is disappearing in the basement doing nothing but playing Halo, you may want to make sure your kid doesn't have a problem," Todd concluded.

"Well said," Matthews added.

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Halo of all things. This is the problem with legislating on rare and highly emotional cases. 9/11 and the Patriot Act, Homeland Security are two examples.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/chuck-tod...ave-a-problem/

And someone gave me crap earlier for bringing this up.

If you dont like guns, thats fine. I completely understand. Especially people in urban areas and outside of the US that havent grown up around them. Just dont go off on some crusade trying to ban them and hold some sort of moral high ground, odds are something you enjoy could be next on the chopping block.

And people who like guns shouldn't promote a mindset of gun hoarding and weapon stockpiling for some doomsday scenario. Odds are it might get 20 kindergartners slaughtered and lead to a backlash.

I think the gun control debate is like the gridlock in DC. Sides are so polarized nothing has been done in forever.

edit: haha they just brought what i said up on the show

Dashel_sl said:

MSNBC: If your kid plays HALO make sure he doesnt have a problem

Chuck Todd on Hardball:




Halo of all things. This is the problem with legislating on rare and highly emotional cases. 9/11 and the Patriot Act, Homeland Security are two examples.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/chuck-tod...ave-a-problem/

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The media has to come up with stupid shit like this to justify having 24 hour cable news. In reality, we only need 30 mins of unbiased, opinionated news each day. In the meantime, cable and what is left of the print media will continue to justify its existence with bullshit.

I'm Rich Bitch_sl said:

unbiased, opinionated news

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huh?

This is a really good radio show, thanks for posting it.

These are the kind of anti gun folks i dont mind, this guy has actually taken the time and effort to learn about firearms and past gun laws. Edit: This senator is dumb.

The prepper crowd is a bit looney, but that is a VERY small part of the firearms community. There is also a lot of media stereotyping of anyone who has a large number of guns.

I have something around 60-70 firearms, they are all locked up in large gun safes that are bolted to concrete slab of my house. Some were my Grandfathers, some my Fathers and some mine. Rifles, pistols, shotguns etc etc. I have them because i like guns, i like the lines, i like the engineering and i like to shoot. I hunt occasionally and am heavily involved in competition. I am not "stock piling guns" everything i have each has a different use. I have zero illusions about a crash of society or anything tinfoil hat related. Hell, i have a CCW and i think i only carried maybe 5 times all year. I mainly got it to allow me to transport firearms to and from competitions and hunts without all of the hassle. I also have 3 reloading presses and enough components on hand to make about half a million rounds of about 10 different calibers. When i was heavily competing i was shooting 10k rounds a month easily. And you save money buying in bulk!

I am sure a lot of ppl would think i am some complete nutter after just reading about what i have on hand.

3 Gun Nation, a competition i am involved with was just cancelled. Which sucks, i know a number of guys who have quit jobs or taken LOA's to compete. No word on what is going to happen with it now.

So you are essentially describing a tradition of gun ownership, almost a stewardship. Your vault is more museum or art gallery than weapon cache. We talk about how the Tea Party has radicalized the Republican Party... has the NRA radicalized gun ownership by coaxing people to buy more guns, especially considering that the NRA gets a percentage of each gun sold in a lot of shops (I've heard)? It seems like the NRA's hardlining is going to hurt responsible gun owners by what looks like a mounting national backlash.

earthfell_sl said:

So you are essentially describing a tradition of gun ownership, almost a stewardship. Your vault is more museum or art gallery than weapon cache.

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Thank you! I appreciate how that was worded.

And you are absolutely right about the NRA and the Tea Party. A large portion of the firearms community has turned away from the NRA in the past 10 years. Their rhetoric does us no good. We are hopeful that they are delaying any puplic response in order to come up with some sort of stance or statement that doesnt just overtly piss off the anti gun ppl.

As of right now, i honestly think we are going to see some changes in gun laws. I just hope that if something is going to happen that they are rational about it.

Guys Sweden's gun-related homicide rate is 1/16th ours, but it's a mystery what we should do. There's so many layers, and culture, and... you know, sociology and shit. It's so complex!

B_Mizzle_sl said:

But hey what's the difference really, psycho white guy steals his moms gun goes on a rampage, poor little black teen don't eat because his mom spent the food money on cigs and blow, steals his uncles gun, joins a gang, does a drive by in the parking lot.

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There's a pretty fucking major difference between those two scenarios.

Devlin_sl said:

Ghoul:

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: a legendary evil being that robs graves and feeds on corpses
2
: one suggestive of a ghoul; especially : one who shows morbid interest in things considered shocking or repulsive

Here because I do not think that word means what you think it means.

What I am saying when 20 children under 10 are gunned down by a retard there shouldn't be people sitting in offices rubbing their hands together thinking about viewing figures or newspaper sales.

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That is tantamount to saying there shouldn't be private news.

B_Mizzle_sl said:

Why force the issue? If we're talking about the lesser of 2 evils, would you rather some guy decide to turn himself into a bomb, or go on a rampage with a glock? I'm surprised liberals haven't called Ice T an uncle tom yet for supporting our second amendment, that's how liberals normally roll. Don't agree with our position, your a racist...your an uncle tom... and blah blah blah.

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No. You get called a racist because you believe genuinely racist shit.

mkopec_sl said:

Cant really compare the two. Im betting Sweedens population is not as diverse as ours which opens up a plethora of socio-economic problems. Im betting they do not have the nearly the drug and alcohol problems and the culture associated with drugs and alcohol as our country does.

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See guys. It's the black fellers with all their drinking and crack that are the problem.

Mikhail Bakunin_sl said:

See guys. It's the black fellers with all their drinking and crack that are the problem.

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Is that all you do? Every time someone goes anywhere near mentioning race you call them a racist. Sometimes people make racist posts here, but that was not one of them. A country could be 100% white and still have a diverse population, as race is not the only metric that a population is measured by.

Mikhail Bakunin_sl said:

See guys. It's the black fellers with all their drinking and crack that are the problem.

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I was hoping you would get banned.....

Flank_sl said:

A country could be 100% white and still have a diverse population, as race is not the only metric that a population is measured by.

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What he means is clearly race (though of course now he'll probably deny it). This game will not work on me.

Sweden actually has a huge immigration problem.

It's kinda hilarious, because there's like 70 countries with half our gun homicide rate. But we have to act like it's a fucking riddle how they accomplish that.

THEY HAVE LESS GUNS. FUCKIN' PAZZOW. MAGIC. Nobody is surprised by this other than us. NOBODY. It's like we're the only fucking people on this planet who don't accept math.

mkopec_sl said:

Seems like they are. Not trying to be racist, just stating facts.

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SUCK MY DICK, FLANK.