Gun control

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Jesus Christ I hate how PC people are now.

A large part of our gun violence is caused by black men in urban and inner city ghettos. I'm sorry, it is just the truth. Call me racist if it makes you feel better. This is why nothing ever gets fixed and we pussyfoot around the real problems. Why don't we call a spade a spade (hur)
Is anyone denying that? The point is that there is nothing about the genetic makeup of a black person that influences it. If you take a black baby and a white baby and have them raised the same way in the same place, the black baby is not going to be more likely to kill people.
 

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You could control the results based on socioeconomic factors (If it isn't already...) and you'd start to see more even results. But you can't really control the results based on cultural factors which is a huge problem that black leaders are trying very hard to fix. The race is a bit of a red herring, it's the culture of some people of a race that is the root issue.
Is anyone denying that? The point is that there is nothing about the genetic makeup of a black person that influences it. If you take a black baby and a white baby and have them raised the same way in the same place, the black baby is not going to be more likely to kill people.
I think you and I agree but you're oversimplifying it. You can't just put a black and a white baby in even the same household and assume that they grow up with the same experiences, pressures etc.
 

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especially since the black baby is much more likely to be murdered than the white baby, as mkopec's table clearly shows. thanks for uncovering how black males are under siege in the united states, mkopec...
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especially since the black baby is much more likely to be murdered than the white baby, as mkopec's table clearly shows. thanks for uncovering how black males are under siege in the united states, mkopec...
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And thats fine, there is no denying this. But ask yourself this, under siege from who?

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You can't just put a black and a white baby in even the same household and assume that they grow up with the same experiences, pressures etc.
To be completely fair, you can't put ANY two individuals into the same environment and expect the same results. Far too many variables, the differences in personality alone will lead to different decisions being made based on possibilities presented.

Its clear that institutional/cultural influence impacts even wealthy minorities differently than whites, in my opinion.

I think the greater point is that it is ultimately up to the individual to raise as much above his/her circumstances as possible, and societies' goal should be to limit, to the greatest extent possible within the law, the negative influences from differences such as race/gender, what have you, in the lives of individuals.
 

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That graph makes it seem like you have your scum fairly well segregated.

Black on white is too much higher than white on black, though. I would be interested to see the geographical locations of black on white versus white on black, but I doubt that data is available.
 

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which makes me wonder, why are white people so afraid of black men?if, as you elude, its mostly black on black. why are some whites so obsessed with the lives of black folk, particularly when it comes to demonizing them, but take a hands off approach when it comes to helping black people struggling through poverty? it's a huge interest designed to prove to everyone that you dont, and shouldnt, have an interest.
 

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You could control the results based on socioeconomic factors (If it isn't already...) and you'd start to see more even results. But you can't really control the results based on cultural factors which is a huge problem that black leaders are trying very hard to fix. The race is a bit of a red herring, it's the culture of some people of a race that is the root issue.

I think you and I agree but you're oversimplifying it. You can't just put a black and a white baby in even the same household and assume that they grow up with the same experiences, pressures etc.
That is interesting, I did not really think of that. In my local area, more than 99.9% of the population is white. Black people have the same experiences and pressures as white people, because you don't racial stereotype when you only actually know two black people.
 

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which makes me wonder, why are white people so afraid of black men?
If you controlled the above graph for population count (72% for white, incl hispanics, 12% for blacks) and racial proximity you'd get most of your answer. You could probably find a well-integrated and even-raced city for that.
There's more to it though, fear of the unknown, racism etc.
That is interesting, I did not really think of that. In my local area, more than 99.9% of the population is white. Black people have the same experiences and pressures as white people, because you don't racial stereotype when you only actually know two black people.
I don't know your situation/town, but I'd bet a watermelon that if you told the two black people you knew they weren't stereotyped by locals and had the same experiences/pressures growing up despite their race they'd laugh at you.
 
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Relevant factors meaning what? Usually calculating a normalizing factor is used extensively in statitistics when you have data sets that use different base values. These are not different base values.
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Different base values. What in the fuck are you talking about? Anyway, you've failed the test. Go take a basic statistics course and come back.
 
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Jesus Christ I hate how PC people are now.

A large part of our gun violence is caused by black men in urban and inner city ghettos. I'm sorry, it is just the truth. Call me racist if it makes you feel better. This is why nothing ever gets fixed and we pussyfoot around the real problems. Why don't we call a spade a spade (hur)
I love how close you can get to the relevant factors while still getting the picture totally wrong.

You could control the results based on socioeconomic factors (If it isn't already...) and you'd start to see more even results. But you can't really control the results based on cultural factors which is a huge problem that black leaders are trying very hard to fix. The race is a bit of a red herring, it's the culture of some people of a race that is the root issue.
Yeah cause it couldn't be any extrinsic factors associated with their race. It's the pervasive moral inferority of their culture. Jesus fucking christ.

I think you and I agree but you're oversimplifying it. You can't just put a black and a white baby in even the same household and assume that they grow up with the same experiences, pressures etc.
Right, they might come to associate with the raps and the hip hops of their racially inferior culture and BAM, suddenly you've got a violent criminal on your hands.
 

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20776784

Obama wants to reinstate the pre 2004 ban?
I get that they have to do something to re-assure their base that they're focused on the agenda of the people, but I think that's just grandstanding. There probably won't be a better time to bring this up, but there are so many in circulation already. If they let the ban lapse again people will go buy them by the truckload again. They need to regulate them more strictly on a permanent basis. Prohibiting things entirely leads to irrational responses.

Where is Boehner on gun control? Do they expect the republicans to vote for it?
 

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Relevant quote:

"Since I?m no longer serving as a police officer, I can tell the truth ? the whole truth ? and it?s not encouraging. Remember, above all, this foremost truth:No one is responsible for your personal safety and that of those you love but you."