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Sheriff Cad

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Injecting insulin yes. Mounjaro.

I can go without it a week NP. Its the thought I took a gallon of fuckin laxative...THEN they tell me you can't take the Mounjaro and be put under.
Still confused.. Mounjaro is not insulin. Are you just talking about can't inject your Mounjaro before anesthesia?

If so - it's valid because you have a higher risk of aspiration due to it slowing gastric emptying, so you'd need to fast for longer than normal. Going without it for a week also shouldn't be an issue, but they could just extend your required fasting time prior, but of course there's no way for them to verify you actually did that. Requiring you to be off it for a time before a procedure seems the safest bet.
 
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Still confused.. Mounjaro is not insulin. Are you just talking about can't inject your Mounjaro before anesthesia?

If so - it's valid because you have a higher risk of aspiration due to it slowing gastric emptying, so you'd need to fast for longer than normal. Going without it for a week also shouldn't be an issue, but they could just extend your required fasting time prior, but of course there's no way for them to verify you actually did that. Requiring you to be off it for a time before a procedure seems the safest bet.

My bad. I assumed it was ANOTHER insulin. Good info.
 
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Sheriff Cad

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My bad. I assumed it was ANOTHER insulin. Good info.
Sorry not trying to come off as "ackshully" I just didn't know what you were meaning.

Super dumb of them not to ask you this in advance and then scrub the procedure after you did the prep.
 
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I had a coloscopy and I don't remember them asking anything. They did tell me no aspirin for X days but I really don't remember anything else. Doesn't mean they were supposed to ask.
 

Izo

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Nope but also you don't want to be on insulin. Once you go to insulin you'll be dependent for life.

I forget but are you taking oral meds too? Probably metformin?
What kind of reverse logic is that, noodle? You end up on insulin when you're out of options in DM2. It's a treatment ladder. You don't become dependant because you're on insulin. Sheesh.
 

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What kind of reverse logic is that, noodle? You end up on insulin when you're out of options in DM2. It's a treatment ladder. You don't become dependant because you're on insulin. Sheesh.
Sorry man I'm really sick and delirious
 
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Khane

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Isn't Noodle also technically correct though? Once your pancreas stops working thats that.
 

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What kind of reverse logic is that, noodle? You end up on insulin when you're out of options in DM2. It's a treatment ladder. You don't become dependant because you're on insulin. Sheesh.
Some doctors jump straight to insulin as the only option when they see a high a1c though. The wife had that happen, so she changed doctors and the new one was like, yeah, lets try other stuff first. Not sure how common it is for doctors to be that insulin happy, but it makes me wonder how many people are on it that didn't really need to be.
 
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Izo

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Isn't Noodle also technically correct though? Once your pancreas stops working thats that.
Negative on the tech. DM2 is insulin resistance, not shortage of pancreas insulin, initially. When you get to needing insulin it's becuse sugar is not kept down with the ladder. It's then termed IDDM2. It's not the insulin (injections) itself causing the dependancy. Can it be that the DM2 progressed so far, or the compliance is so low, or diet/exercise/other needed medication? Yes. Optionanally the inevitable decline of the pancreas can make it so you develop acidose, and need insulin to stay out of it, sure.
Some doctors jump straight to insulin as the only option when they see a high a1c though. The wife had that happen, so she changed doctors and the new one was like, yeah, lets try other stuff first. Not sure how common it is for doctors to be that insulin happy, but it makes me wonder how many people are on it that didn't really need to be.
See above. Direct to insulin in DM2 is not a standard regime. But is it DM2? Can be some rare variants inbetween dm2 (normal levels of insulin, bet tissue sensitivity to insulin is down) and dm1 (production probkem, pancreas not producing enough insulin) - blood works and/or antibody tests is usuall the start - or the doc thought it was a debut of DM1, in which case insulin is the one and only treatment. For DM2: It's usually: change of diet and exercise. Then pharma firstline = metformin. Then add any number of sglt-2 inhib/sulfo/dpp-iv inib/pio. All of these more or less work by increasing insulin sensitivity or excreting excess sugar = the base problem in DM2. Then add/mono with ozempic. If this is not enough, then a new strategy with some or none of the above combined with insulin might be viable option. The regime is individualized, are your morbidly obese, do you work night, are you demented (kek), old, in risk of amputations, bad eyes, etc etc. I suspect your docs may be biased towards whatever gives kickbacks/stock/whatever - Cad Cad schooled me earlier in how this is not the case (any more?). Either the doc thought she was a severe case of dm2, or it was a debut of dm1 which it could've been, thought it was too dangerous to wait for the ladder to take effect, or thought it was an in-between variant, or was lazy or just wanted to sell some insulin, no idea. I'd strongly consider getting a second opinion regardless if they suggest insulin as mono in a dm2, I think.
 
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Negative on the tech. DM2 is insulin resistance, not shortage of pancreas insulin, initially. When you get to needing insulin it's becuse sugar is not kept down with the ladder. It's then termed IDDM2. It's not the insulin (injections) itself causing the dependancy. Can it be that the DM2 progressed so far, or the compliance is so low, or diet/exercise/other needed medication? Yes. Optionanally the inevitable decline of the pancreas can make it so you develop acidose, and need insulin to stay out of it, sure.

See above. Direct to insulin in DM2 is not a standard regime. But is it DM2? Can be some rare variants inbetween dm2 (normal levels of insulin, bet tissue sensitivity to insulin is down) and dm1 (production probkem, pancreas not producing enough insulin) - blood works and/or antibody tests is usuall the start - or the doc thought it was a debut of DM1, in which case insulin is the one and only treatment. For DM2: It's usually: change of diet and exercise. Then pharma firstline = metformin. Then add any number of sglt-2 inhib/sulfo/dpp-iv inib/pio. All of these more or less work by increasing insulin sensitivity or excreting excess sugar = the base problem in DM2. Then add/mono with ozempic. If this is not enough, then a new strategy with some or none of the above combined with insulin might be viable option. The regime is individualized, are your morbidly obese, do you work night, are you demented (kek), old, in risk of amputations, bad eyes, etc etc. I suspect your docs may be biased towards whatever gives kickbacks/stock/whatever - Cad Cad schooled me earlier in how this is not the case (any more?). Either the doc thought she was a severe case of dm2, or it was a debut of dm1 which it could've been, thought it was too dangerous to wait for the ladder to take effect, or thought it was an in-between variant, or was lazy or just wanted to sell some insulin, no idea. I'd strongly consider getting a second opinion regardless if they suggest insulin as mono in a dm2, I think.
I forget the numbers, but in this case I think it was based entirely on elevated a1c. With a new doctor, 6mo of metformin and improved diet improved it out of the scary range, and then 6 months of glp1 got it fairly close to normal range.
 
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Got the gift of a pap smear for my birthday today, but at least I finally got to see a gynecologist about shit, though nothing conclusive. Said longer period shit sometimes happens with the blood thinners and metabolic changes can fuck with everything, which my weight loss this year might have contributed to. She did also want to switch me off the mini-pill and to an IUD instead, since mini-pill is apparently garbage for any actual protection and apparently with my blood clot history, being on blood thinners, etc. any kind of unplanned prego shit is hazardous to me and apparently it may also help mitigate the bleeding shit from the blood thinners. Not really thrilled about getting one and probably gonna double check with my hematologist/endo first to see what they think.
 
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Noodleface

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Negative on the tech. DM2 is insulin resistance, not shortage of pancreas insulin, initially. When you get to needing insulin it's becuse sugar is not kept down with the ladder. It's then termed IDDM2. It's not the insulin (injections) itself causing the dependancy. Can it be that the DM2 progressed so far, or the compliance is so low, or diet/exercise/other needed medication? Yes. Optionanally the inevitable decline of the pancreas can make it so you develop acidose, and need insulin to stay out of it, sure.

See above. Direct to insulin in DM2 is not a standard regime. But is it DM2? Can be some rare variants inbetween dm2 (normal levels of insulin, bet tissue sensitivity to insulin is down) and dm1 (production probkem, pancreas not producing enough insulin) - blood works and/or antibody tests is usuall the start - or the doc thought it was a debut of DM1, in which case insulin is the one and only treatment. For DM2: It's usually: change of diet and exercise. Then pharma firstline = metformin. Then add any number of sglt-2 inhib/sulfo/dpp-iv inib/pio. All of these more or less work by increasing insulin sensitivity or excreting excess sugar = the base problem in DM2. Then add/mono with ozempic. If this is not enough, then a new strategy with some or none of the above combined with insulin might be viable option. The regime is individualized, are your morbidly obese, do you work night, are you demented (kek), old, in risk of amputations, bad eyes, etc etc. I suspect your docs may be biased towards whatever gives kickbacks/stock/whatever - Cad Cad schooled me earlier in how this is not the case (any more?). Either the doc thought she was a severe case of dm2, or it was a debut of dm1 which it could've been, thought it was too dangerous to wait for the ladder to take effect, or thought it was an in-between variant, or was lazy or just wanted to sell some insulin, no idea. I'd strongly consider getting a second opinion regardless if they suggest insulin as mono in a dm2, I think.
Right I think in my fever I meant to say that once you've progressed to being insulin dependent the disease is pretty progressed. But words failed me.
 

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Right I think in my fever I meant to say that once you've progressed to being insulin dependent the disease is pretty progressed. But words failed me.
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My autism got the better of me too. No sweat, Noodlebro.
 

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For the first time since I was probably 6 years old I shit my pants last night. Pretty solid streak of 36 years.

I have some real bad stomach virus. Had diarrhea for a couple days but yesterday the fever went away and the gastro stuff stopped completely outside a little nausea still looking at food with not much appetite. Probably the most sick I've ever been in my adult life though. No idea what it is and I'm not one to go to the doctor for illnesses unless I feel I'm not getting better.

Anyways story is kinda funny I guess. Went to sleep feeling fine,.haven't been sleeping much lately though so crashed. Woke up at 2am on the toilet shooting liquid gold out of my ass. No idea how I got there. But unsettling to wake up to. Took me about 15 minutes to fully realize it actually happened, like my mind kept telling me that wasn't real. Stayed up for an hour with a couple minor episodes of shitting then laid down.

Woke up an hour later with liquid in my shorts. Thankfully I was sideways, it was minimal, and it was all contained. But man what a defeating feeling.

I thought about not sharing but honestly this is like the least at fault you can be for shitting your pants there is. Really a technical foul.
 
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For the first time since I was probably 6 years old I shit my pants last night. Pretty solid streak of 36 years.

I have some real bad stomach virus. Had diarrhea for a couple days but yesterday the fever went away and the gastro stuff stopped completely outside a little nausea still looking at food with not much appetite. Probably the most sick I've ever been in my adult life though. No idea what it is and I'm not one to go to the doctor for illnesses unless I feel I'm not getting better.

Anyways story is kinda funny I guess. Went to sleep feeling fine,.haven't been sleeping much lately though so crashed. Woke up at 2am on the toilet shooting liquid gold out of my ass. No idea how I got there. But unsettling to wake up to. Took me about 15 minutes to fully realize it actually happened, like my mind kept telling me that wasn't real. Stayed up for an hour with a couple minor episodes of shitting then laid down.

Woke up an hour later with liquid in my shorts. Thankfully I was sideways, it was minimal, and it was all contained. But man what a defeating feeling.

I thought about not sharing but honestly this is like the least at fault you can be for shitting your pants there is. Really a technical foul.
My wife works at a local middle school and told me there are a few stomach bugs going around. Stay hydrated and ride it out.
 

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For the first time since I was probably 6 years old I shit my pants last night. Pretty solid streak of 36 years.

I have some real bad stomach virus. Had diarrhea for a couple days but yesterday the fever went away and the gastro stuff stopped completely outside a little nausea still looking at food with not much appetite. Probably the most sick I've ever been in my adult life though. No idea what it is and I'm not one to go to the doctor for illnesses unless I feel I'm not getting better.

Anyways story is kinda funny I guess. Went to sleep feeling fine,.haven't been sleeping much lately though so crashed. Woke up at 2am on the toilet shooting liquid gold out of my ass. No idea how I got there. But unsettling to wake up to. Took me about 15 minutes to fully realize it actually happened, like my mind kept telling me that wasn't real. Stayed up for an hour with a couple minor episodes of shitting then laid down.

Woke up an hour later with liquid in my shorts. Thankfully I was sideways, it was minimal, and it was all contained. But man what a defeating feeling.

I thought about not sharing but honestly this is like the least at fault you can be for shitting your pants there is. Really a technical foul.
Been there. Done that. Was at work. Felt the bubbling in the gut, ran to bathroom, did not make it in time. Went home after that.